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Applerill
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Okay, I thought Satie's "Music You Love That Others Hate" thread a few weeks ago would be about this, but then the analysis died by the third page. This thread is not for you to list that "questionable" music, but to explain why you love it so much so that we can give it another chance as a community.

As you guys know, there are many, many candidates I'd love to do this with, but I'll leave it to you guys to start your explanations.
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As maligned as it is by critics, and "serious" music listeners, I absolutely adore Panic! at the Disco's debut, A Fever You Can't Sweat Out. I think it's an ambitious debut with a ton of personality, a lot of energy, and a ton of seen-through ambition. Conceptually, it's pretty strong. It's quite literate. It's crazy diverse. I think that it's really easy to overlook, but it's solid from top to bottom.
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HoldenM wrote:
As maligned as it is by critics, and "serious" music listeners, I absolutely adore Panic! at the Disco's debut, A Fever You Can't Sweat Out. I think it's an ambitious debut with a ton of personality, a lot of energy, and a ton of seen-through ambition. Conceptually, it's pretty strong. It's quite literate. It's crazy diverse. I think that it's really easy to overlook, but it's solid from top to bottom.


I just can't stand the guys voice.
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HoldenM wrote:
As maligned as it is by critics, and "serious" music listeners, I absolutely adore Panic! at the Disco's debut, A Fever You Can't Sweat Out. I think it's an ambitious debut with a ton of personality, a lot of energy, and a ton of seen-through ambition. Conceptually, it's pretty strong. It's quite literate. It's crazy diverse. I think that it's really easy to overlook, but it's solid from top to bottom.


the frontman went to my high school!

i'm thoroughly convinced that if popular music criticism has a Renaissance of attempted canonization and tries to evaluate the dominant artistic rock mode of the mid-aughts that they'll place pop punk up there. MCR, FOB, and Green Day all released venerable masterpieces in that time period, and I'm sure plenty of others that I've never given a listen did, as well. it was just fashionable to malign them because everyone was being territorial about the word "emo" and had to resist the mainstream or some other garbage, but we've seen with passing decades that the retroactively canonized stuff tends to also be the biggest sellers with shouts out to the actually notable underground releases that were sonically innovative and not just continued releases in a certain fashion trend. seriously, how many indie rock releases from the 2000s that made Pitchfork's various lists even made it to their own P2K or whatever they called that decade overview list? this is one spot where Rolling Stone remains ahead of the curve, in my opinion.

i'm gonna go wash my mouth out now.
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I Like Lily Allen's "It's not me It's you",Principally because Pop albums tends to be Singles "Singles" shots and then boring songs hangovers for me, Which most of times contribute for my "radio-stereotyped-Pop albums were not really necessary" bias, but man I've listened to it like five times, and Each time I notice how diverse it sounds from song to song, and the best is that it keeps me Glued-Hyped on it for all over it (except for "Chinese"..Really ...Screw that song). It's my only exception I also like Paramore but it's not the case right now, also she is was cute as fawwkes.
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I'm always defending music that's been dubbed "Meme Music" (Obviously Death Grips and NMH, but sometimes even reaches stuff like American Football, The Microphones, Burial, and Animal Collective). I don't need to defend that to you guys, so I guess I'll go with these few.

I kind of liked the new Miley Cyrus & The Flaming Lips album. While I didn't put it in my Top 20 of the year, I feel like I appreciated it for reasons that I shouldn't. To me, it seems like Miley is trying to push this kind of post-ironic appreciation for heavily-saturated, sexual pop (as is shown by the cover) so that she can push these ridiculous ballads that make no sense. Someone once asked "What does pop pushed to its absolute limits sound like?" and my answer is "this". It's not progressive pop (i.e. Kate Bush, Björk) in any sense of the word, but it is pushing things past a kind of safe boundary that Top 40 rests in. Bravo, Miley.
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shaydndepriest wrote:
Someone once asked "What does pop pushed to its absolute limits sound like?"


These were all top 25 singles in either the US or the UK (note: I'm not saying they're my favorites but they are notably well selling), and push the boundaries of popular music, especially for when they were released, much farther than Miley did here:


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Miley's album's not outright bad, there were even some good tracks mixed in with the crap, and there are valid arguments to make in it's defense, but it doesn't push any limits except the "how much sexy talk does it take to make a straight, hormonal teenage boy feel ill" and the answer is about one quarter of Bang Me Box.
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\ but it doesn't push any limits except the "how much sexy talk does it take to make a straight, hormonal teenage boy feel ill" and the answer is about one quarter of Bang Me Box.


Being a straight hormonal teenage boy and having never heard Bang Me Box, I decided to put this to the test.

0:18 Vocal samples pissing me off still going strong though.

0:32 God these lyrics with this porn groove bassline are uncomfortable to listen to.

1:18 Officially feeling ill.

It checks out.


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...Whelp, I guess it's time for me to show off my 1500-word piece on Miley Cyrus.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/djreh9ahebnkn....docx?dl=0

(Also, talking about Big Star and Iggy Pop when people bring up poptimism is like explaining the Darren Wilson trial when talking about race relations; just shut up, because it doesn't have anything to do with the issue)
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Applerill wrote:
...Whelp, I guess it's time for me to show off my 1500-word piece on Miley Cyrus.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/djreh9ahebnkn....docx?dl=0

(Also, talking about Big Star and Iggy Pop when people bring up poptimism is like explaining the Darren Wilson trial when talking about race relations; just shut up, because it doesn't have anything to do with the issue)


Comparing Miley Cyrus to Korine? I need to read this.
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