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meruizh
Gender: Male
Age: 33
- #1
- Posted: 10/28/2015 15:03
- Post subject: When do we stop keeping up with new music?
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Without saying this is applicable to everyone, I think there's a general perception that as you get older, people stop listening to new music.
Quote: | After sixty years of research, it’s conventional wisdom: as people get older, they stop keeping up with popular music. Whether the demands of parenthood and careers mean devoting less time to pop culture, or just because they’ve succumbed to good old-fashioned taste freeze, music fans beyond a certain age seem to reach a point where their tastes have “matured”.
http://skynetandebert.com/2015/04/22/mu...lar-music/ |
The study’s author reached this conclusion by slicing up tons of Spotify user data, as well as artist popularity data from another site called The Echo Nest.
I just look at the older people I know, and this seems definitely true. In this moment I dont see myself in ten years listening to 00's and 10's music for the rest of life, but that may change. It's a weird feeling as I consume a vast amount of new music every year.
What are your thoughts on this? _________________ "Hurry Up, We're Dreaming"
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- #2
- Posted: 10/28/2015 18:18
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Several fucking ancients on the forum seem to be keeping up just fine .
I think that it's a matter of music being something that you participate in as pop culture spectacle or take seriously as a hobby (not that these things are mututally exclusive, of course). If you're a music "hobbyist," I imagine your chances of becoming uninterested in trying new things as time goes on wane. I also feel like plenty of people at younger ages who are music "hobbyists" don't necessarily follow music as it's coming out and only consume the new. I feel like listening to "new to them" things takes precedence (speaking from personal experience and the various charts of people here under 25 not just being 2010s exclusive). So, while I have to remain open to the possibility that "taste freeze" might occur and my ears may become tinnier and tinnier as regards brand new popular music or even just brand new music in general, I doubt that I will ever stop seeking out music that is new to me. I also would be interested in assessing the tastes of lifelong jazz and classical fans, as I hypothesize the active listening stereotypes associated with those genres, if demonstrably true, might show a correlation with retained openness and exploration.
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Hayden
Location: Vietnam 
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- Posted: 10/28/2015 18:29
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I agree with what Satie said, but I'm going to chime in a few of my own thoughts.
First off, this study is silly. I'm assuming the applicants were all middle-aged working-class American men? Even if you look at that demographic, it's quite obvious that they aren't going to be excited about the new Selena Gomez album.
This study (from what I can tell) only targets pop music. Sooo... people grow out of pop music, and start branching off by listening to music that they prefer. I think I stopped listening to the radio when I was 11. This isn't exactly groundbreaking research.
Plus, as I'm sure a lot of people here know, generations change. The people who grew up in the 40's and 50's weren't too fond of popular music from the 70's and 80's. It should only be assumed that the people who grew up in the 70's and 80's aren't too fond of the popular music being released now.
I'm also assuming these aren't music enthusiasts. The upcoming of the internet also has a bit to do with this I believe. The generation that grew up with the internet will more than likely continue to seek out new music simply because of how simple it is. Those who aren't technology efficient are probably struggling to care.
Things change, but I think the currently 15-25 age demographic won't fall into this trend. Even with pop music.
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zdwyatt
Gender: Male
Age: 46
Location: Madison WI 
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- Posted: 10/28/2015 18:32
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I have wondered about this myself. I am by no means "old," but I appear to be older than the average BEA user. I certainly have not slowed in my consumption of new music. In fact, the ease of discovery and access that we currently enjoy means I listen to more music now than ever. When I was 15, I might buy a handful of albums and hear a few others through friends. Beyond that, I just heard whatever was on rotation on local radio. Now, I'm listening to upwards of 400 albums a year. I still buy albums, still usually a handful in a given year. But my tastes run more obscure than they would have even 10 years ago.
I agree that the difference is in whether you treat music as a hobby or not. Presumably we're all on this site because we're a bit obsessed with music. It's certainly my favorite form of entertainment/culture and the one to which I devote most of my time. I can't imagine that will ever change.
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Jimmy Dread
Old skool like Happy Shopper
Location: 555 Dub Street 
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- #5
- Posted: 10/28/2015 18:54
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zdwyatt wrote: | I agree that the difference is in whether you treat music as a hobby or not. Presumably we're all on this site because we're a bit obsessed with music. It's certainly my favorite form of entertainment/culture and the one to which I devote most of my time. I can't imagine that will ever change. |
Bingo. I don't think age has got anything to do whether or not you listen to/love new music, but more your devotion to music as art. I have to confess that bar one or two exceptions (and not counting those on BEA I natter to who are 35/40+) the majority of people I know around my age have got very little interest in new music whatsoever, and are quite happy either nestling in the comfort of their Beatles/Led Zep/Smiths/Happy Hardcore collections (delete where applicable) or not having much interest in anything bar dancing badly at a wedding to 'that song I heard on the radio, you know, the one with the nude girls in the video'.
Perhaps this has something to do with how other contemporary 'art' (film, TV) is consumed. Most of us get to a certain age where our leisure time (after work, family, mowing the lawn, DIY and all those other boring 'adult' things) means sharing the experience with your wife/hubby/gf/bf/kids. TV and film are perfect for this - you can snuggle on the sofa or sit next to each other in a cinema and get lost in it without having to do a lot more, more often than not in total silence - it's like a mutually acceptable form of anti-social escapism. Music is different. It is - especially at my age - a strictly solo pursuit. Unless your other half is understanding enough for you to indulge your musical geekdom (luckily mine is) or a like-minded music freak, the time you have to get lost in an album, catalogue your record collection and more importantly for the sake of this thread discover new music is precious and often fleeting. Chances are you're not going to hear stuff that piques your interest on the radio - unlike a film or TV prog you're not going to flick between channels or through theatre listings and find something to fall in love with, as most radio stations will play pop music designed to appeal to a mass audience, whether that be contemporary 'chart pop' for the teens/early 20s or classic tracks from yesteryear for a more mature audience (that's the power of listener figures and advertising revenue - 'the greatest happiness of the greatest number' and all that jazz. I still get offended as 90's music being classed as 'oldies'). On the contrary, to keep up with new music you need to put the time and effort in, and with so much other shit going on it ain't always as easy as it used to be when I was 16, where I used to lie on my bed for hours just filling my ears for kicks.
Bottom line is you need time to discover new stuff, and time becomes more precious (and for some strange reason seems to go a lot more quickly) as you age. If music is your passion, you'll make time - peruse websites, go to record shops, chat to like-minded mates either on-line or in person. If it isn't, you'll jettison it for something like baking or knitting bonnets. Thankfully I can't cook for shit, so whilst the wife's in the kitchen making my tea I'll find more inane 21st century twee pop to stuff in front of your lugholes. And as music's always been my passion, that ain't ever gonna stop unless my ears stop working. _________________ 'Reggae' & t'ing
Folk 'n Stuff
SHAMELESS RECORD DEALER PLUG
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meccalecca
Voice of Reason
Gender: Male
Location: The Land of Enchantment 
- #6
- Posted: 10/28/2015 19:12
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noWaxJim wrote: |
Bottom line is you need time to discover new stuff, and time becomes more precious (and for some strange reason seems to go a lot more quickly) as you age. |
The old men are right on the money. it's all a matter of free time. If I had a more demanding job, kids, and a less insane obsession with music, I'd surely not be keeping up with music like I was when I was in college and had loads of free time. My ability to keep up with film has certainly waned over the past 5 years. _________________ http://jonnyleather.com
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hardrocker
Gender: Male
Age: 64
Location: Japan 
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- Posted: 10/29/2015 05:01
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I agree; it's all about time. There are several other factors involved, but it's primarily about time.
When we were kids, most of us had that spare time to talk about things with our friends and in school. Obviously, I'm completely unaware of what gets discussed today, but it's easy to see that back in the 70's, when I was reaching those ages of discovery (heh), all there really was, was music.
MTv didn't exist and there were few rock films, so the visual medium was imperceptible, unless you had a steady cash flow (and weren't using it over "other" recreational activities), so all we did was listen to it - jam out, and hit the occasional concert.
It became the overriding occupier for some of us and we carried it on into our adult years.
For most, it got lost in the rigors of life; work, raising a family, paying bills, being exhausted at the end of a day... it all plays a part.
The other piece is that, when you're young and have time, and you're in discover-mode, you do exactly that. When you're all grown up, you're spending hardly any time discovering something new.
Plus, we tend to carry on with what we're familiar with. As Hayden said, not many of us are going to develop any healthy interest in Selena Gomez, but we'll tell you all about UFO or Montrose (or whoever).
It's like clothes; at my age, I'm still wearing jeans and t-shirts with some kind of age-appropriate graphic on it. I never wore anything from Ed Hardy or whatever else is current. Hell, my dad still wears the same shirts he wore when he was a teenage gas pump monkey.
But one small caveat; I want to qualify 'new' music. Beiber, Rhianna, et.al, is new music , but so is Rising Sons or Koritni. The former is for my kids. The latter I listen to and buy. So I keep up. _________________ It's Never Too Loud
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Liedzeit
Gender: Male
Age: 65
- #8
- Posted: 10/29/2015 14:32
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I maybe an exception, but I basically stopped listening to new music at age 21, which is more than 30 years ago.
And it was not a question of time. I just did not like new music.
I startet getting interested in music at 13 or 14. Rather late. Listening to Top 20 stuff and "discovering" old guys like Del Shannon, Four Seasons, John Lennon. But the only time that music really meant something for me was 1977 to 1979 when I would go out dancing to Punk/New Wave. Bauhaus, Fall, Siouxsie, Talking Heads, Pop Group, Suicide, Joy Division. 1980 all was over. Groups that I liked would break up or start making shit music "Road to Nowhere", or repeating themselves. And nothing new came along.
I continued to listen to John Peel’s Music, and I liked a lot of the stuff he played and I admired him for staying "young". But even his music was not for me, with very rare exceptions.
I bought the Strokes and Franz Ferdinand when they came out because of the hype but was "underwhelmed".
Last time I bought a new record that I actually liked was Tame Impala. And that is quite retro.
But everything is well in this best of all possible worlds. If I listen to music the old stuff is good enough for me. _________________ When the stewardess is near do not show any fear.
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- Posted: 10/29/2015 19:04
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FlorianJones
Gender: Male
Age: 30
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- Posted: 10/30/2015 01:53
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This is certainly the hope. Although clearly many people do eventually lose interest in new music. As pretty much everyone else has said, a lot of it seems to be an issue of free time. _________________ Overall - The 2010's - 2020
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