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Okay, so I'm editing the heading of this thread due to the slightly excessive controversy it inadvertently spawned. Basically, I've often found that I tend not to agree with what most people consider the best songs on an album. In fact, I pretty frequently find them to be the weaker tracks on said albums. Here are some examples:

Tomorrow Never Knows - The Beatles
A Day in the Life - The Beatles
Come Together - The Beatles
Stan - Eminem
Wake Me Up When September Ends - Green Day
Paradise City - Guns n' Roses
Black Dog - Led Zeppelin
Rock and Roll - Led Zeppelin
Wanna Be Startin' Something - Michael Jackson
Wonderwall - Oasis
Where Is My Mind? - Pixies
Monkey Gone to Heaven - Pixies
Everybody Hurts - R.E.M.
Paranoid Android - Radiohead
Rusty Cage - Soundgarden
Black Hole Sun - Soundgarden
Rikki Don't Lose That Number - Steely Dan
Any Major Dude Will Tell You - Steely Dan
Prison Song - System of a Down
Toxicity - System of a Down
Aerials - System of a Down
B.Y.O.B. - System of a Down

To name a few. So, though most of these songs are still pretty good, each one of them is among the weakest tracks on its respective album, yet they're all more popular than practically every other song on their respective album. Does anyone else have this problem?


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On most albums I dislike or I am wishy - washy on, the most popular songs are the ones I like.

For example, "MMMbop" happens to be one of my favorite pop songs, but I am not a big fan of the album.

As for your point, that can be true sometimes for me, I guess.
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Not sure about the rest but Paradise City, Black Dog, and Rock and Roll are not weak at all.

On Appetite the weaker songs I would say are Out ta Get Me and You're Crazy.
Zeppelin IV has no weak songs, except MAYBE Four Sticks.
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But my own example I can think of is KISS's Beth off of Destroyer. That song was their biggest hit ever but I think it's the weakest song on the album. KISS shouldn't have ever done ballads like that. Power ballads? Sure. But straight up ballads? No.
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swedenman wrote:


Tomorrow Never Knows - The Beatles
A Day in the Life - The Beatles
Come Together - The Beatles
Stan - Eminem
Black Dog - Led Zeppelin
Rock and Roll - Led Zeppelin
Where Is My Mind? - Pixies
Monkey Gone to Heaven - Pixies
Everybody Hurts - R.E.M.
Paranoid Android - Radiohead


what.

the diminished version of this list is generous, too; a few of the other songs could have been left on for my "what" reaction. These are all songs that I like a lot. Some, if not most, are the best on the album.

I mean, what track off of Sgt. Pepper's can you really argue is better than ADITL? (That's the one track on this list that, in my mind, there is really no competition for best song).


Oh, to answer the question at large, I guess I don't really agree. I usually like what the most popular songs are best. There are always exceptions, of course, the notable example being "Motion Picture Soundtrack" off of Kid A, but usually the most well-liked songs are my favorites as well. (In theory, most people ought to be in this boat...)
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swedenman wrote:

Paranoid Android - Radiohead


Shocked Possibly my favorite song of all time.

I do get your overall meaning though. Sometimes I get really pissed at a selection for a single when I think so many other songs are better, and would be better fit for singles. The most popular song on an album often seems like a baffling selection, specifically when you listen to an album a lot upon initial release and form opinions before the album ages and popular songs emerge.
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Sometimes the case
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I had to do a double take when I realized that an_outlaw didn't start this thread...
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All these songs are the best on the albums I dont know what this guy is talking about Surprised
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Perhaps it's an age thing. When I was 16-17 I resented the singles on albums and also popular music in general. Then I grew up and realised it doesn't change anything whether a song becomes popular or not - it is still that song that the artist wrote. It does become difficult when a song becomes overstaurated and you hear it everywhere - I agree with that, simply because there are very few (if any) songs I can hear 200 times and not get sick of.

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I imagine most people on this site will agree that most modern pop music is garbage


as for this...no. That's just a bullshit statement all round. And I think more and more people on the site are becoming accepting of more pop music (not all because who like every song of any particular genre?) but once you look at all music almost as one and stop putting dividing lines - you realise there is as much greatness and crap in pop music (modern or not) as there is any genre.

So you can't ask "Popular Songs: Yes or No?" because it isn't a yes or no question.
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