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What are we saying is college rock? Seems like most everyone's on the same page, though I'd call The Stone Roses britpop and I'm not sure if what Public Enemy did can really be tied to what Nevermind did. Just looking for clarification here.
My list would have lots of overlap with others', but I'd probably add Beat Happening. If we're talking specifically about Nevermind, this becomes even more relevant given Kurt's affection for twee pop. I'm also partial to including Fugazi, Minutemen, and Violent Femmes. All said and done, my ten would probably include Beat Happening, Fugazi, Minutemen, Violent Femmes, Hüsker Dü, The Replacements, Sonic Youth, R.E.M., Pixies, fIREHOSE.
If The Stone Roses count they should be there since they're arguably an early influence on britpop which would be the British counterpart to the grunge thing happening stateside, and then you can also swap in the Smiths, Cure, and Cocteau Twins for good measure, maybe rounding out the five with (gulp) U2's early, edgier stuff, but I wanted to stick to the stateside incubation of the alternative rock sound that would foster Nirvana.
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| permafrost wrote: | | What are we saying is college rock? |
It's either a genre or a movement, I'm still not clear.
I have a very loose grasp of it, clearly.
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College Rock is nothing more than a buzzword for alternative & indie artists of a certain time and place.
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| Gowi wrote: | | College Rock is nothing more than a buzzword for alternative & indie artists of a certain time and place. |
Exactly. You could say that college rock began with REM's Murmur and ended with Nevermind. It was mostly music from the UK and US with some interesting imports from New Zealand aka Kiwi rock.
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| permafrost wrote: | What are we saying is college rock? Seems like most everyone's on the same page, though I'd call The Stone Roses britpop and I'm not sure if what Public Enemy did can really be tied to what Nevermind did. Just looking for clarification here.
My list would have lots of overlap with others', but I'd probably add Beat Happening. If we're talking specifically about Nevermind, this becomes even more relevant given Kurt's affection for twee pop. I'm also partial to including Fugazi, Minutemen, and Violent Femmes. All said and done, my ten would probably include Beat Happening, Fugazi, Minutemen, Violent Femmes, Hüsker Dü, The Replacements, Sonic Youth, R.E.M., Pixies, fIREHOSE.
If The Stone Roses count they should be there since they're arguably an early influence on britpop which would be the British counterpart to the grunge thing happening stateside, and then you can also swap in the Smiths, Cure, and Cocteau Twins for good measure, maybe rounding out the five with (gulp) U2's early, edgier stuff, but I wanted to stick to the stateside incubation of the alternative rock sound that would foster Nirvana. |
these are all stellar picks, Satie! 
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FlorianJones
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| permafrost wrote: | | I'm also partial to including Violent Femmes. |
Violent Femmes seems like an obvious pick to me, I'm surprised Permafrost is the only one to mention them.
Other ones I'd include are...
The Smiths - Pretty much any of their first three seem like reasonable choices but I'll go with TQID
The Cure - Disintegration is my favorite, but Head on the Door or Pornography seem like better college rock choices
Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation. I'm not a big fan, but the initial post says most influential, so I can't sensibly leave it out.
Pixies - Doolittle. Same deal as Daydream Nation.
The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses. I think they count, I see them more as the forerunners to Britpop than actual Britpop, a Proto-Britpop if you will.
New Order - Power Corruption and Lies
Depeche Mode - Black Celebration or Violator
Minutemen - Double Nickels on The Dime
Talk Talk - Spirit Of Eden. This may be a little bit of a stretch but if we say college rock is just alternative artists from a certain time period, I don't see why it should be left out
I chose what I see as the most influential college rock in general rather than most influential on Nirvana. I'm not sure which one we're supposed to be doing, or if that's up to us.
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LittleM1971
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| permafrost wrote: | What are we saying is college rock? Seems like most everyone's on the same page, though I'd call The Stone Roses britpop and I'm not sure if what Public Enemy did can really be tied to what Nevermind did. Just looking for clarification here.
If The Stone Roses count they should be there since they're arguably an early influence on britpop which would be the British counterpart to the grunge thing happening stateside, and then you can also swap in the Smiths, Cure, and Cocteau Twins for good measure, maybe rounding out the five with (gulp) U2's early, edgier stuff, but I wanted to stick to the stateside incubation of the alternative rock sound that would foster Nirvana. |
I've never viewed the Stone Roses as proto Brit-pop to be honest. They along with Happy Monday's were born more from the Acid House explosion of the late 80's 'Indie Dance' was the term I believe before the term 'baggy' was used. The crop of British bands of the 90's looked towards the likes of Wire, XTC, The Jam, Madness, Buzzcocks, Small Faces and Kinks for their inspiration. The Stone Roses were seen as quite uncool by 1993.
Also don't think 'counterpart' is the right word to describe Britpop in relation to grunge as it came about as a reaction to the fag end of grunge, a reclaiming of British identity in music. I think proto Britpop would without doubt be The Manic Street Preachers with the New Art Riot EP (1990), Suede (1992), The Auteurs first single (1992) and possibly Adorable (1992).
The first real sign of the reaction to American Rock was without doubt Blur's call to arms 'Modern Life is Rubbish'. From here we then get the first small scene 'New Wave of New Wave' (Smash, These Animal Men even Sarah indie poppers Action Painting! were all punk posturing on their single Mustard Gas).
From there it exploded with Oasis, Supergrass, Elastica, Parklife etc
Regards to the term College Rock, I have always been under the impression that it was what you guys called Indie. Here in the UK the term indie was too broad and got in a right sticky situation when Kyle Minogue, Rick Astley were constantly top of the indie chart. College Rock is a far better term to describe all the bands listed in this thread.
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| RepoMan wrote: | | Exactly. You could say that college rock began with REM's Murmur and ended with Nevermind. It was mostly music from the UK and US with some interesting imports from New Zealand aka Kiwi rock. |
Yup. pretty much the counter to the era's heavy emphasis on hair metal.
Nevermind's ridiculous success was pretty much what took College Rock into the mainstream and began the shift to calling it alternative and then eventually indie from what I recall.
They Might Be Giants were another one of those prototypical college rock bands in their early days
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