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Poll: Should Neo-Westerns Be Allowed? |
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badseed
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Age: 35
Location: FL
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- #111
- Posted: 05/27/2018 21:15
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I'm working like 12 hours too. On break now. I haven't even started adding up points yet but I have a feeling this one is gonna be a piece of cake in comparison to the actors poll so I should be able to post the list sometime before I go to bed tomorrow morning if I get started after work. Make sure you let me know of any updates before the cutoff.
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CA Dreamin
Gender: Male
Location: LA
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- #112
- Posted: 05/28/2018 01:58
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Got through Warlock and Rio Bravo today. No Neo-Westerns or Sci Fi-Westerns. They simply don't look right on this list. So many Westerns I still need to see. Anyway, here's my crappy list:
1. High Noon (1952)
2. The Ox-Bow Incident (1943)
3. The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly (1966)
4. Stagecoach (1939)
5. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969)
6. The Wild Bunch (1969)
7. Dances with Wolves (1990)
8. Unforgiven (1992)
9. McCabe and Mrs. Miller (1971)
10. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962)
11. Once Upon a Time in the West (1968)
12. For a Few Dollars More (1965)
13. Rio Bravo (1959)
14. 3:10 to Yuma (1957)
15. The Treasure of Sierra Madre (1948)
16. There Will Be Blood (2007)
17. The Searchers (1956)
18. The Tin Star (1957)
19. A Fistful of Dollars (1964)
20. Ulzana's Raid (1972)
21. Yellow Sky (1948)
22. The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976)
23. Red River (1948)
24. The Magnificent Seven (1960)
25. Drums Along the Mohawk (1939)
26. Little Big Man (1970)
27. The Wind (1928)
28. True Grit (2010)
29. True Grit (1969)
30. The Tall T (1957)
31. Shane (1953)
32. Warlock (1959)
33. The Hateful Eight (2015)
34. Bend of the River (1952)
35. Forty Guns (1957)
36. The Iron Horse (1924)
37. The Far Country (1954)
38. Django Unchained (2012)
39. Will Penny (1968)
40. My Darling Clementine (1946)
41. The Revenant (2015)
42. The River of No Return (1954)
43. Go West (1925)
44. Dodge City (1936)
45. The Brass Legend (1956)
46. El Dorado (1966)
47. Hombre (1967)
48. Ravenous (1999)
49. Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
50. The Proposition (2005)
51. The Sun Shines Bright (1953)
52. Destry Rides Again (1939)
53. Seven Men From Now (1956)
54. Hondo (1953)
55. Bad Company (1972)
56. Wild and Woolly (1917)
57. Buchanan Rides Alone (1958)
EDIT Decided to delete Giant. Added Buchanan Rides Alone. Made a couple minor adjustments.
Last edited by CA Dreamin on 05/29/2018 05:10; edited 1 time in total
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PurpleHazel
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- #113
- Posted: 05/28/2018 02:17
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Really good list! Technically Giant and Treasure of Sierra Madre are neo-westerns, but classic ones, not contemporary ones, which are definitely more palatable to me (the only kind I include on my list as well). Kudos for including The Wind -- seeing someone else including it is tempting me to add it to my list too.
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CA Dreamin
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Location: LA
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- #114
- Posted: 05/28/2018 02:56
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PurpleHazel wrote: | Really good list! Technically Giant and Treasure of Sierra Madre are neo-westerns, but classic ones, not contemporary ones, which are definitely more palatable to me (the only kind I include on my list as well). Kudos for including The Wind -- seeing someone else including it is tempting me to add it to my list too. |
Giant and Treasure of Sierra Madre take place in the 1920s, so they're certainly borderline Westerns. Giant spans 20-30 years and actually leads into the 1950s if I'm not mistaken. So yeah, I considered removing Giant but I didn't feel like re-typing the numbers. Plus I highly doubt it will make the final list anyway.
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PurpleHazel
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- #115
- Posted: 05/28/2018 05:27
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StreetSpirit wrote: | Giant and Treasure of Sierra Madre take place in the 1920s, so they're certainly borderline Westerns. Giant spans 20-30 years and actually leads into the 1950s if I'm not mistaken. So yeah, I considered removing Giant but I didn't feel like re-typing the numbers. |
Sierra Madre's definitely borderline. I assumed Giant was later because of the oil rigs, but me no know history well.
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bobbyb5
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Location: New York
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- #116
- Posted: 05/28/2018 05:33
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PurpleHazel wrote: | Sierra Madre's definitely borderline. I assumed Giant was later because of the oil rigs, but me no know history well. |
I put an oil rig movie on my list too. But to be honest I never really thought about when it took place. The actors are wearing really old looking clothes, so I guess I just assumed it took place quite a long time ago. But if it's about oil rigs it couldn't be all that long ago. Heh heh. I'm going to have to research that.
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PurpleHazel
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- #117
- Posted: 05/28/2018 05:39
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Final list:
1. Man of the West
2. McCabe & Mrs. Miller
3. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
4. 3:10 to Yuma (1957)
5. The Tall T
6. The Searchers
7. Rio Bravo
8. The Naked Spur
9. Stagecoach (1939)
10. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
11. Red River
12. The Wild Bunch
13. Johnny Guitar
14. El Topo
15. The Gunfighter
16. Rancho Notorious
17. Ride the High Country
18. For a Few Dollars More
19. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
20. High Noon
21. The Shooting
22. Seven Men From Now
23. Unforgiven
24. The Ox-Bow Incident
25. Hud
26. Last Train From Gun Hill
27. Once Upon a Time in the West
28. Day of the Outlaw
29. Shane
30. My Darling Clementine
31. Django
32. Pursued
33. Winchester ’73
34. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
35. True Grit (2010)
36. Blazing Saddles
37. El Dorado
38. Wagon Master
39. Lonely are the Brave
40. The Great Silence
41. Yellow Sky
42. Bend of the River
43. Django Unchained
44. The Man From Laramie
45. One-Eyed Jacks
46. Buchanan Rides Alone
47. Hombre
48. The Misfits
49. Heaven’s Gate
50. The Magnificent Seven (1960)
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PurpleHazel
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- #118
- Posted: 05/28/2018 07:08
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I crammed 7 westerns in the last 9 days. Some interesting parallels:
Both Last Train From Gun Hill and Rancho Notorious open with the main character's wife/fiancee's rape-murder; in the former a young boy witnesses part of it, in the latter a young boy hears it. In Last Train From Gun Hill (1959), the scene's surprisingly explicit for its time and the word "rape" is used. In Rancho Notorious (1952), the fiancee's screams are heard twice before a gunshot, but I wasn't 100% sure a rape took place till a doctor says, "She wasn't spared anything." Later the main character says she was "outraged" as a euphemism for "raped." I can just imagine representative from the Hayes office suggesting the word in place of something slightly stronger.
In both Rancho Notorious and For a Few Dollars More, the main character either breaks out of jail with an outlaw or breaks an outlaw out of jail in order to be accepted by and infiltrate a criminal group. Watched consecutively.
The Great Silence (watched yesterday) and Day of the Outlaw (watched today) are both completely set in very snowy environments (Utah, Montana) that play a major role in the plots.
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bobbyb5
Gender: Male
Location: New York
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- #119
- Posted: 05/28/2018 07:15
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PurpleHazel wrote: | I crammed 7 westerns in the last 9 days. Some interesting parallels:
Both Last Train From Gun Hill and Rancho Notorious open with the main character's wife/fiancee's rape-murder; in the former a young boy witnesses part of it, in the latter a young boy hears it. In Last Train From Gun Hill (1959), the scene's surprisingly explicit for its time and the word "rape" is used. In Rancho Notorious (1952), the fiancee's screams are heard twice before a gunshot, but I wasn't 100% sure a rape took place till a doctor says, "She wasn't spared anything." Later the main character says she was "outraged," euphemism for "raped."
In both Rancho Notorious and For a Few Dollars More, the main character either breaks out of jail with an outlaw or breaks an outlaw out of jail in order to be accepted by and infiltrate a criminal group. Watched consecutively.
The Great Silence (watched yesterday) and Day of the Outlaw (watched today) are both completely set in snowy environments (Utah, Montana) that play a major role in the plots. |
The whole premise of Rancho notorious is the same as Johnny Guitar. Basically, a woman runs a hideout for wild and crazy outlaws.
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PurpleHazel
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- #120
- Posted: 05/28/2018 07:21
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Hadn't thought of that. Been a while since I saw Johnny Guitar. Funny, Marlene Dietrich and Joan Crawford are both these larger-than-life icons who were in their later years when they starred in the movies (Dietrich was 50 and Crawford was probably 49).
Last Train from Gun Hill's quite similar to 3:10 to Yuma -- right down to their titles, both referring to a train's schedule. But LTFGH's suspenseful in its own right.
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