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RoundTheBend

I miss the comfort in being sad

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So I'm kind of coming to a close to my project... 6 months into it. 1330 albums listened to between 1950 and 2009. I'm not even close with 2010s yet (43 albums in and because I'm so unfamiliar with it... at least so I think, that I probably want to do a total of 300 albums).

Anyway... a small reason I'm doing this is to update my overall chart. I was dissatisfied that I kind of just threw it together. It was more or less a gut check and very much so less scientific. I think getting older and the job I'm in... well I'm way more meticulous (kinda) and really care... do I like this album more than that one and why. So I developed this system and tested it out with the 1950s... by the end I was satisfied. I realized the shortcomings of my system and that it totally wasn't any more scientific than any soft science of surveys. If I took the same survey 10 times... I might just answer it differently each time, even if I took it all at once.

So... here's a rough draft of two different versions of what my overall could look like, minus the 2010s of course (which I think there's probably at least 10 albums that would make it).

This one is based on the fact that sometimes I do think an overall chart should have 50 Beatles albums because one part about the respect of musicians/albums that I have is their staying power and often groups like the Beatles have multiple staying power albums. They are icons of our culture for a reason... it's not just because some old fat fart wanted to make money, although that of course always plays a role. So there's a part of me that is happy with having 2198498425 U2 albums on my list... U2 made A LOT of solid albums. So here's that list:

Top 100 Test: Rating Only by sethmadsen

But then there's a part of me that actually agrees that the overall chart should be the best of each artist I find fantastic. Sometimes great albums get a shaft because what... you want to rank all 19357594 Beatles albums? That's kind of not fair. I do sometimes find myself thinking though... huh... so I axed 50 to 80 albums on this list which I rated higher, just so I could have some esoteric one off band who made a great record once to be on my list... like AFI and Sublime. I mean no offence, I like those bands, but they aren't what I'd consider the greatest ever.

Anyway, here's that list: Top 100 Test: 1 per artist by sethmadsen

I'll probably mill over it and of course when I add 2010 data to it, who knows what I'll settle on.

dihansse

Gender: Male

Age: 60

I think I prefer the second because it's more varied Seth. You certainly like rap/hip hop more than I do but I have a question on your choice of albums of two artists in your list:
- Smashing Pumpkins: I always wonder why people like Mellon Collie better than Siamese Dream which I consider a masterpiece
- B-52's: why Cosmic Thing over the B-52's album which contains these fantastic weird but brilliant tracks like Rock Lobster and Dance This Mess Around?

Anyway: good work Seth

RoundTheBend

I miss the comfort in being sad

Location: Ground Control

dihansse wrote:

I think I prefer the second because it's more varied Seth. You certainly like rap/hip hop more than I do but I have a question on your choice of albums of two artists in your list:
- Smashing Pumpkins: I always wonder why people like Mellon Collie better than Siamese Dream which I consider a masterpiece
- B-52's: why Cosmic Thing over the B-52's album which contains these fantastic weird but brilliant tracks like Rock Lobster and Dance This Mess Around?

Anyway: good work Seth

Thanks for the feedback!

Let's see... Mellon Collie vs Siamese Dream:

Siamese Dream: I have at a solid 95 rating and it actually is currently ranked number 9 on my current overall chart. So my gut check agrees with you.

Mellon Collie: I have a 90 without adjusting the score and a 99.2 with the top 13 songs (thanks to your ideas with double albums).

If I'm looking for a blockbuster blow my mind concise album, Siamese all the way. If I'm looking for something that has more depth to it, more "artistry" to it, Mellon Collie all the way.

So to answer your question, both albums are fantastic, but my choice was really based on the 99.2 score.

As for the B-52's, I think it more or less comes down to nostalgia but also I'm not a huge fan of the quirky/silly stuff. I "appreciate" quirky stuff, but I don't consider it "great" if that makes any sense. I feel that although Cosmic Thing is a bit safe and could be boring to some, feel it has some of their best beats, melodies, and songwriting. This goes for Phish too... their quirky stuff isn't my favorite. I'd take Farmhouse over Rift or Billy Breathes for this very same reason. It's not bad, it's just " oberflächlich" to me.

dihansse

Gender: Male

Age: 60

Hi Seth I'm answering this while listening to the new Peppers album (starting at the second half because I think I will like this part most when I read the reviews: upto now very good) in between my 1988 listening project which can get a bit in the way of just listening to albums I really like and discovering new albums of 2016.

On Smashing Pumpkins: ok I see that there is not a big difference for you: maybe you shouldn't have listened to me and stuck to your old scoring system, than Siamese Dream would have been on the top Brick wall

. But to me I don't really have a big connection with Mellon Collie while Siamese Dream is a masterpiece but all if this is of course personal taste.

On the silliness of the first B-52's album: of course it's silly but to me it's also great musically in my opinion also because of the very good interaction between the voices of the female singers and Fred Schneider. In general I don't like silliness on albums especially if they are mocking their own music (something that I don't really like about artists like Zappa or Ween) but on this album (and the next) it works really well as far as I'm concerned.

On Phish: I don't really know Farmhouse and since it's only the 93rd album of 2000 I won't even have it in my listening sessions per year but I do know a few tracks of that album from live albums and of course tracks like Gotta Jibboo and Farmhouse are also great.
I discovered this band when I read a very enthusiastic review of Billy Breathes after it came out in 1996 and I connected with it immediately because to me there are some really great tracks on it like Waste and Taste which are truly gems to me and certainly not superficial (although you would think otherwise if you only look at the goofy album cover). The thing is this album is not so much about electric guitars and it was only later that I discovered their many live albums on which they are jamming till they drop and where I really like the guitar playing so I even appreciate them more now. Phish and Built to Spill (to me you can't find more sprawling guitar playing than on their "Live" album of 2000 with The Plan, a 20:30 version of Cortez The Killer and especially a 19:08 live version of Broken Chairs) are to me the quintessential guitar jamming bands of course next to the big chief Neil Young.

RoundTheBend

I miss the comfort in being sad

Location: Ground Control

Yes, Phish is a phenomenal band. Totally not discounting

I even like the song on Rift that basically repeats "when you're there, I sleep lengthwise, and when you're gone, I sleep diagonally in my bed."

But I'll totally choose Farmhouse any day over anything else (minus live stuff... have this live in Japan 4 cd set that is amazing) mostly cause I like the fun part of Phish... I really do, but somehow it ruins the album from be a best ever album for me.

As for B-52's... I like Rock Lobster and all, but eh, it's a matter of taste.

As for Mellon Collie... Laughing

Also, what is it you don't like? Too soft at times? Too all over the place. Too harsh at times?

If definition is "perfect" album (whatever that means, but I think you get the picture), I'd totally agree that Siamese is a more perfect album than Mellon Collie.

Also just out of curiosity, what do you think about Gish and Adore?

For me it probably (gut check, my ratings say otherwise):

1. Siamese Dream
1.5 ( Laughing

) Picese Iscariot
2. Mellon Collie
3. Adore
4. Gish
5. Teargarden by Kaleidoscope
6. Machina
7. The rest I kinda think are ok

dihansse

Gender: Male

Age: 60

Thx Seth.
My order for Smashing Pumpkins albums would be:
1. Siamese Dream (of course)
2. Pisces Iscariot
3. Gish
4. Mellon Collie
5. Oceania
6. Machina

So like you I also have a bit of a knack for Pisces Iscariot especially because of Starla and also a bit Hello Kitty Kat.
I discovered Gish before Siamese Dream so I had no comparison point at that moment and I liked it but to me this album is still completely different from the rest of their albums.
Mellon Collie is certainly a good album and I especially like X.Y.U. on it.
I don't really like the latter albums and I think the main thing about SP in general when they're not genial is they tend to trend to bland hard rock or hard rock slows. It's not like I don't like hard but there always has to be some subtlety or musicality in it which I sometimes miss in the latter albums and even sometimes on Mellon Collie.
And this is strange: I first heard Siamese Dream in my car CD player driving through Scotland and I didn't like it because I thought it was too hard and without subtlety. I still don't understand that first feeling but it quickly changed Smile

RoundTheBend

I miss the comfort in being sad

Location: Ground Control

dihansse wrote:

Thx Seth.
My order for Smashing Pumpkins albums would be:
1. Siamese Dream (of course)
2. Pisces Iscariot
3. Gish
4. Mellon Collie
5. Oceania
6. Machina

So like you I also have a bit of a knack for Pisces Iscariot especially because of Starla and also a bit Hello Kitty Kat.
I discovered Gish before Siamese Dream so I had no comparison point at that moment and I liked it but to me this album is still completely different from the rest of their albums.
Mellon Collie is certainly a good album and I especially like X.Y.U. on it.
I don't really like the latter albums and I think the main thing about SP in general when they're not genial is they tend to trend to bland hard rock or hard rock slows. It's not like I don't like hard but there always has to be some subtlety or musicality in it which I sometimes miss in the latter albums and even sometimes on Mellon Collie.
And this is strange: I first heard Siamese Dream in my car CD player driving through Scotland and I didn't like it because I thought it was too hard and without subtlety. I still don't understand that first feeling but it quickly changed Smile

Hehehe... isn't it funny how our tastes change/opinion of things, etc. I'm sure what I love now, I won't love 10 years from now, and then some I still will equally, and some I'll still appreciate because of the memory of why I liked it then, but don't really like it now (Piebald is a good example of this).

So it sounds like the softer side of Smashing Pumpkins isn't really your forte.

I also think I used to think their quality was much higher than it really is. They are somewhere between great and mediocre. Sometimes when I compare them to other Alternative Rock music, I think they are GREAT, but overall, in the grand scheme of things, there might become a time when they are completely forgotten. Maybe not... just a guess.

RoundTheBend

I miss the comfort in being sad

Location: Ground Control

I almost gave up on the 2010s so I could finish my other like 8 projects... I'm so close.

But then I realized, patience... I can't really do my other projects until I finish the 2010s... it wouldn't be fair.

So here's my progress so far and the albums I think I will review. It's 244 albums.

I'm sure I'll continue finding new stuff, but for now I think this is sufficient for current purposes. I combed through wikipedia, other people's lists, this site's top 100 and then some friend recommendations:

Rank Title Band Year Rating
1 The Suburbs Arcade Fire 2010 85.6
2 My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy Kanye West 2010 86.9
3 Good Kid, M.A.A.D City Kendrick Lamar 2012 77.5
4 Lonerism Tame Impala 2012 85
5 To Pimp A Butterfly Kendrick Lamar 2015 81.2
6 High Violet The National 2010 78.1
7 Modern Vampires Of The City Vampire Weekend 2013 86.2
8 Bon Iver, Bon Iver Bon Iver 2011 78
9 Helplessness Blues Fleet Foxes 2011 70
10 Teen Dream Beach House 2010 80.5
11 Reflektor Arcade Fire 2013 87.6
12 Carrie & Lowell Sufjan Stevens 2015 75
13 An Awesome Wave alt-j 2012 77.8
14 Brothers The Black Keys 2010 98.6
15 Channel ORANGE Frank Ocean 2012 65
16 This Is Happening LCD Soundsystem 2010 82.2
17 AM Arctic Monkeys 2013 85.4
18 Random Access Memories Daft Punk 2013 85.1
19 ...Like Clockwork Queens Of The Stone Age 2013 88.5
20 Lost In The Dream The War On Drugs 2014 75
21 Halcyon Digest Deerhunter 2010 73.6
22 The King Of Limbs Radiohead 2011 91.8
23 El Camino The Black Keys 2011 83.1
24 Let England Shake P.J. Harvey 2011 75
25 The Smile Sessions The Beach Boys 2011 ***
26 Plastic Beach Gorillaz 2010 ***
27 Bloom Beach House 2012 ***
28 Yeezus Kanye West 2013 ***
29 The Age Of Adz Sufjan Stevens 2010 ***
30 Innerspeaker Tame Impala 2010 ***
31 Contra Vampire Weekend 2010 ***
32 Trouble Will Find Me The National 2013 ***
33 Benji Sun Kil Moon 2014 ***
34 The Idler Wheel Is Wiser Than The Driver Of The Screw And Whipping Cords Will Serve You More Than Ropes Will Ever Do Fiona Apple 2012 ***
35 Have One On Me Joanna Newsom 2010 ***
36 Wasting Light Foo Fighters 2011 91.8
37 The Wild Hunt The Tallest Man On Earth 2010 ***
38 21 Adele 2011 ***
39 The Seer Swans 2012 ***
40 Kaputt Destroyer 2011 ***
41 Hurry Up, We're Dreaming M83 2011 ***
42 Blunderbuss Jack White 2012 ***
43 The Money Store Death Grips 2012 ***
44 Run The Jewels 2 Run The Jewels 2014 ***
45 To Be Kind Swans 2014 ***
46 The ArchAndroid (Suites II and III) Janelle MonÃ¡e 2010 ***
47 I Love You, Honeybear Father John Misty 2015 ***
48 Visions Grimes 2012 ***
49 Congratulations MGMT 2010 ***
50 Currents Tame Impala 2015 ***
51 St. Vincent St. Vincent 2014 ***
52 Total Life Forever Foals 2010 ***
53 Cosmogramma Flying Lotus 2010 ***
54 m b v My Bloody Valentine 2013 ***
55 Shields Grizzly Bear 2012 ***
56 Salad Days Mac DeMarco 2014 ***
57 Attack On Memory Cloud Nothings 2012 ***
58 James Blake James Blake 2011 ***
59 Born To Die Lana Del Rey 2012 ***
60 Strange Mercy St. Vincent 2011 ***
61 Art Angels Grimes 2015 ***
62 Suck It And See Arctic Monkeys 2011 ***
63 Burst Apart The Antlers 2011 ***
64 Sunbather Deafheaven 2013 ***
65 Ceremonials Florence And The Machine 2011 ***
66 Celebration Rock Japandroids 2012 ***
67 Yuck Yuck 2011 ***
68 We Are The 21st Century Ambassadors Of Peace And Magic Foxygen 2013 ***
69 Psychic Darkside 2013 ***
70 Black Messiah D'Angelo And The Vanguard 2014 ***
71 Father, Son, Holy Ghost Girls 2011 ***
72 2 Mac DeMarco 2012 ***
73 The Monitor Titus Andronicus 2010 ***
74 Acid Rap Chance The Rapper 2013 ***
75 Angles The Strokes 2011 ***
76 The 2nd Law Muse 2012 87.6
77 Sometimes I Sit And Think, And Sometimes I Just Sit Courtney Barnett 2015 ***
78 Loud City Song Julia Holter 2013 ***
79 In Colour Jamie xx 2015 ***
80 What Did You Expect From The Vaccines? The Vaccines 2011 ***
81 Tourist History Two Door Cinema Club 2010 ***
82 The King is Dead The Decemberists 2011 ***
83 Amok Atoms For Peace 2013 ***
84 Torches Foster The People 2011 ***
85 This Is All Yours âˆ† (alt-j) 2014 ***
86 The Next Day David Bowie 2013 ***
87 Royal Blood Royal Blood 2014 86.5
88 You're Dead! Flying Lotus 2014 ***
89 Take Care Drake 2011 ***
90 LP1 FKA Twigs 2014 ***
91 50 Words For Snow Kate Bush 2011 ***
92 Section.80 Kendrick Lamar 2011 ***
93 Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds 2011 ***
94 Babel Mumford & Sons 2012 ***
95 Pure Heroine Lorde 2013 ***
96 Broken Bells Broken Bells 2010 ***
97 Exmilitary Death Grips 2011 ***
98 Sun Structures Temples 2014 ***
99 PiÃ±ata Freddie Gibbs & Madlib 2014 ***
100 They Want My Soul Spoon 2014 ***
103 Django Django Django Django 2012 ***
109 My Head Is An Animal Of Monsters And Men 2011 ***
110 Morning Phase Beck 2014 ***
112 Comedown Machine The Strokes 2013 ***
115 Watch The Throne Jay-Z and Kanye West 2011 ***
117 w h o k i l l tUnE-YaRdS 2011 ***
118 Mylo Xyloto Coldplay 2011 81.5
125 Boys & Girls Alabama Shakes 2012 ***
128 How I Got Over The Roots 2010 ***
129 The Magic Whip Blur 2015 ***
130 Kveikur Sigur RÃ³s 2013 ***
133 Recovery Eminem 2010 ***
144 Blackstar David Bowie 2016 80
152 Vulnicura BjÃ¶rk 2015 ***
154 BeyoncÃ© [Beyonce] BeyoncÃ© 2013 ***
157 The Year of Hibernation Youth Lagoon 2011 ***
157 A Moon Shaped Pool Radiohead 2016 90
160 Vessel Twenty One Pilots 2013 ***
161 Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son Of Chico Dusty Big Boi 2010 ***
163 House Of Balloons The Weeknd 2011 ***
165 Build A Rocket Boys! Elbow 2011 85.4
167 Speak Now Taylor Swift 2010 ***
176 Melophobia Cage The Elephant 2013 ***
177 Drones Muse 2015 87.5
180 Night Visions Imagine Dragons 2012 ***
181 The Bones Of What You Believe Chvrches 2013 ***
186 Tomboy Panda Bear 2011 ***
190 Holy Fire Foals 2013 ***
192 Born This Way Lady Gaga 2011 ***
197 Go Jonsi 2010 86.6
218 Turn Blue The Black Keys 2014 ***
223 Lazaretto Jack White 2014 87.2
225 Black Sands Bonobo 2010 ***
226 1989 Taylor Swift 2014 ***
229 Simple Math Manchester Orchestra 2011 ***
235 Bankrupt! Phoenix 2013 ***
245 Ultraviolence Lana Del Rey 2014 ***
246 The Endless River Pink Floyd 2014 ***
254 The 20/20 Experience Justin Timberlake 2013 ***
258 Making Mirrors Gotye 2011 ***
266 The Take Off and Landing of Everything Elbow 2014 ***
273 Wrecking Ball Bruce Springsteen 2012 ***
275 R.A.P. Music Killer Mike 2012 ***
281 Ghost Stories Coldplay 2014 ***
282 Sonic Highways Foo Fighters 2014 90.6
295 Some Nights fun. 2012 ***
299 I'm With You Red Hot Chili Peppers 2011 86.9
301 Tomorrow's Modern Boxes Thom Yorke 2014 ***
302 New Paul McCartney 2013 ***
305 Everything Will Be Alright In The End Weezer 2014 93
311 Collapse Into Now R.E.M. 2011 89.5
318 Battle Born The Killers 2012 ***
323 Goblin Tyler, The Creator 2011 ***
326 Champ Tokyo Police Club 2010 ***
338 #ERROR! Ed Sheeran 2011 ***
346 Paralytic Stalks of Montreal 2012 ***
347 Hesitation Marks Nine Inch Nails 2013 ***
355 Blurryface Twenty One Pilots 2015 ***
362 Lightning Bolt Pearl Jam 2013 ***
370 The Marshall Mathers LP 2 Eminem 2013 ***
378 Hozier Hozier 2014 ***
389 13 Black Sabbath 2013 ***
400 The Brothel Susanne SundfÃ¸r 2010
408 Ten Love Songs Susanne SundfÃ¸r 2015 ***
409 The Joy Of Motion Animals As Leaders 2014 ***
421 Megalithic Symphony Awolnation 2011 ***
427 Scary Monsters And Nice Sprites Skrillex 2010 ***
430 Sea Of Cowards The Dead Weather 2010 ***
438 The Hunter Mastodon 2011 ***
440 David Comes To Life Fucked Up 2011 ***
445 Beat The Devil's Tattoo Black Rebel Motorcycle Club 2010 ***
465 Songs of Innocence U2 2014 87
467 Year Of The Black Rainbow Coheed and Cambria 2010 ***
471 So Beautiful Or So What Paul Simon 2011 85
481 Transgender Dysphoria Blues Against Me! 2014 ***
495 Pink Friday Nicki Minaj 2010 ***
496 Odd Soul Mutemath 2011 ***
505 Bad Blood Bastille 2013 ***
508 Breakup Song Deerhoof 2012 ***
510 Never Trust A Happy Song Grouplove 2011 ***
518 Foxy Shazam Foxy Shazam 2010 ***
529 The Weight Of Your Love Editors 2013 ***
535 Teenage Dream Katy Perry 2010 ***
594 Major/Minor Thrice 2011 88.6
598 Blak And Blu Gary Clark Jr. 2012 ***
603 Unorthodox Jukebox Bruno Mars 2012 ***
612 Vital Anberlin 2012 ***
617 Strangers To Ourselves Modest Mouse 2015 ***
622 Twin Fantasy Car Seat Headrest 2011 ***
641 Slow Focus Fuck Buttons 2013 ***
646 Pickin' Up The Pieces Fitz And The Tantrums 2010 ***
651 Doo-Wops And Hooligans Bruno Mars 2010 83.5
652 The Life Of Pablo Kanye West 2016 75
675 My World 2.0 Justin Bieber 2010 ***
681 Oceania The Smashing Pumpkins 2012 ***
723 Astro Coast Surfer Blood 2010 79
728 Compton Dr. Dre 2015 ***
738 Lulu Lou Reed & Metallica 2011 ***
749 Honeymoon Lana Del Rey 2015 ***
753 Tre Green Day 2012 ***
771 The Color Spectrum The Dear Hunter 2011 ***
774 Bangarang Skrillex 2011 ***
775 Tron: Legacy Daft Punk 2010 ***
777 Indie Cindy Pixies 2014 ***
778 A Head Full Of Dreams Coldplay 2015 ***
782 Indigo Meadow The Black Angels 2013 ***
800 Here Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros 2012 ***
820 Dust Bowl Joe Bonamassa 2011 ***
826 Weezer (The White Album) Weezer 2016 83.5
841 Animal Ke$ha 2010 ***
845 The Lady Killer Cee Lo Green 2010 ***
928 Of The Blue Colour Of The Sky OK Go 2010
971 Kaleidoscope Heart Sara Bareilles 2010 ***
977 The Dream Walker Angels & Airwaves 2014
982 Uno Green Day 2012 ***
985 Recess Skrillex 2014 ***
991 Option Paralysis The Dillinger Escape Plan 2010 ***
1048 Neighborhoods Blink-182 2011 82
1066 Sweet Sour Band Of Skulls 2012 ***
1130 The Struggle Tenth Avenue North 2012 ***
1336 Omni Minus the Bear 2010 83
1772 Run Awolnation 2015 ***
1947 Hypnotic Eye Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers 2014 ***
2382 Gimme Some Peter Bjorn And John 2011 ***
2480 Periphery Periphery 2010 ***
2484 2.0 Big Data 2015 ***
2681 Teargarden By Kaleidyscope The Smashing Pumpkins 2010 88
2849 Distant Relatives Nas And Damian Marley 2010 80.3
3099 Jekyll + Hyde Zac Brown Band 2015 ***
3450 The Temperance Movement The Temperance Movement 2013 ***
3631 Stranger To Stranger Paul Simon 2016 90
3736 Himalayan Band Of Skulls 2014 ***
4018 To Be Everywhere Is To Be Nowhere Thrice 2016 81.8
4063 Live Gary Clark Jr. 2014 ***
4179 Carry Us All Away Lowercase Noises 2010 78
4343 Saint Cecilia Foo Fighers 2015 ***
4399 Light Upon The Lake Whitney 2016 ***
5027 99.9% Kaytranada 2016 ***
5515 Fuego Phish 2014 ***
6222 Santana IV Santana 2016 ***
6471 BUSH Snoop Dogg 2015 ***
6714 The Getaway Red Hot Chili Peppers 2016 85.3
7092 Infinity Overhead Minus The Bear 2012 75
7127 Enclosure John Frusciante 2014 ***
8573 Montage Of Heck: The Home Recordings by Kurt Cobain Kurt Cobain 2015 ***
12463 I'm Beside You Red Hot Chili Peppers 2013 79.7
XXXX Song Reader Various Artists 2014 ***

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RoundTheBend

I miss the comfort in being sad

Location: Ground Control

I must concede that either I'm getting old or I'm getting boring or both, but I am starting to open places in my heart for things I never would have before. More hip-hop and rap (but I at least had a greatest hits appreciation of the genre's), more pop music (Yes Taylor Swift and others)... I also used to be the person that was interested in Alternative/Indie music. It seems Alternative has almost become mainstream (Weezer/Nirvana) and there's starting to be little difference between Indie rock and pop. And then Indie Folk kind of stuff might as well be in that grouping as well because I find it just as uninteresting.

But that's my opinion and taste... I like bombastic, yet dynamic music. Something that is quiet and almost monotone throughout the whole album bores me quickly.

RoundTheBend

I miss the comfort in being sad

Location: Ground Control

Have had two thoughts recently after listening to a lot of 2010s albums that are high ranked, but to me are sub-par, as well as listening the the montage from heck home recordings of Kurt Cobain.

1) Do we make up our "big artists"... meaning Beatles were only as great as George Martin built them up to be. Sometimes artists get inflated beyond what they really are? Or are they really that great (if Thom Yorke farted in a cup, we'd possibly still worship it, and yet if another artist did the same we'd hate it).

2) I think sometimes the newer works of ANY era go through fads, and some fade and some have "staying" power.