I can agree that Metallica and Iron Maiden share some metalness, REM and Smiths share some indiepopness, while Minutemen and Dead Kennedys share some punkness, but these are just broad terms which do not explain a lot.
Yea, I mean to say that Iron Maiden and Metallica are the same is pretty odd. Iron Maiden is very very much NWOBHM and Metallica is very rooted in thrash. Aside from the fact that both are "metal" bands in the broad sense of the word, I wouldn't say they're that similar. _________________ 2023 Chart
I can agree that Metallica and Iron Maiden share some metalness, REM and Smiths share some indiepopness, while Minutemen and Dead Kennedys share some punkness, but these are just broad terms which do not explain a lot.
For me the bands you mentioned are miles apart from each other, so it's no wonder you like one of them more than the other one.
Oh for sure... it's like saying I like people from Bavaria... well there's probably a lot of really cool people in Bavaria and a lot of assholes, just like anywhere else.
I guess I am asking myself, why is it I like one band more than the other. At their core they are a punk band... and the obvious thing is each artist is an individual in their own right... but I'm realizing that maybe my "prejudices aren't really grounded in any logic... just opinion. Which of course is ok... but the whatever in me wants to know why.
The wise person probably wouldn't give two shits.... only one...
Iron Maiden was more out of the Rainbow/Deep Purple/etc school of rock music, whilst Metallica took more influence from bands like Discharge/Motorhead/etc; so despite having hard rock as a base to go from they have little in common beyond that.
Iron Maiden was more out of the Rainbow/Deep Purple/etc school of rock music, whilst Metallica took more influence from bands like Discharge/Motorhead/etc; so despite having hard rock as a base to go from they have little in common beyond that.
Thanks! I think I have very little understanding when it comes to genre to be totally honest.
Is this like a known thing, or your opinion? I wouldn't know any better any way. But just curious.
While I do like Metallica metal more, the vocals/bass from Iron Maiden are much more interesting... but at their core, I've yet to have Iron Maiden really jive with my core. So I'm trying to understand why... I typically like things with more interesting bass, but in this case maybe it's the songwriting... I don't really know.
I studied the development of metal when I really “dived” into it and made allusions from what I heard— it isn’t entirely academic but also personal deductions. But a lot of traditional heavy metal did come from the hard rock scene of the early 70s and kind of went from there; starting from when Black Sabbath and Sir Lord Baltimore were called metal by the early press journalists. Also, yeah I did read somewhere once where Metallica cited Discharge and Motorhead; and you can hear both on Ride the Lightning.
But for a quick forray:
Link - Bass gallops that eventually Iron Maiden took to the next level.
Link - Discharge's riffwork and vitriol inspired Metallica.
I studied the development of metal when I really “dived” into it and made allusions from what I heard— it isn’t entirely academic but also personal deductions. But a lot of traditional heavy metal did come from the hard rock scene of the early 70s and kind of went from there; starting from when Black Sabbath and Sir Lord Baltimore were called metal by the early press journalists. Also, yeah I did read somewhere once where Metallica cited Discharge and Motorhead; and you can hear both on Ride the Lightning.
Very cool, thanks. I learned something. Iron Maiden's vocals influenced by anything you know of or is it pretty unique? I was fairly impressed by that, even if the overall feel of the music wasn't my thing.
Also never heard those bands before, so thanks for sharing. Totally dig the bass tone from the Budgie's.
I guess to go back to where I used the wrong words saying bands were at their core the same... I meant they were metal bands, indie pop bands, or punk bands... and they do at least share the larger genre label and therefore have a lot of core things that are similar. Maybe this is where I start respecting sub-genres finally hahahahaha.
I studied the development of metal when I really “dived” into it and made allusions from what I heard— it isn’t entirely academic but also personal deductions. But a lot of traditional heavy metal did come from the hard rock scene of the early 70s and kind of went from there; starting from when Black Sabbath and Sir Lord Baltimore were called metal by the early press journalists. Also, yeah I did read somewhere once where Metallica cited Discharge and Motorhead; and you can hear both on Ride the Lightning.
Very cool, thanks. I learned something. Iron Maiden's vocals influenced by anything you know of or is it pretty unique? I was fairly impressed by that, even if the overall feel of the music wasn't my thing.
Also never heard those bands before, so thanks for sharing. Totally dig the bass tone from the Budgie's.
If memory serves (and wikipedia confirms) Dickinson was inspired by Ronnie James Dio (Rainbow, Elf), Rob Halford (Judas Priest), Arthur Brown (Kingdom Come), Peter Hammill (Van der Graaf Generator), and Ian Gillan (Deep Purple).
I mean you can hear traces of the influences depending on what works you look for:
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