What top BEA picks do u just not like but everyone else does - Music

bobbyb5

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sethmadsen wrote:

I was being too shitty and unfair. Theres more good ones by U2 really. They're not ALL ploddy. Its a Beautiful Day and some others really take off and are really nice. Not ploddy at all. I particularly liked Discoteque too, altho i might be the only person on earth who did. Their fans seem to hate it.

RoundTheBend
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bobbyb5 wrote:

I was being too shitty and unfair. Theres more good ones by U2 really. They're not ALL ploddy. Its a Beautiful Day and some others really take off and are really nice. Not ploddy at all. I particularly liked Discoteque too, altho i might be the only person on earth who did. Their fans seem to hate it.

Nah - Pop is a fine record. Filled with all sorts of gems from Pop irony (I mean the album release party was at a K-Mart for crying out loud, and people still didn't get it)... and then the pop consumerism imagery (wait, we evolved for millions of years just to become consumerists!!!!):

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to the seriousness of Please and fantastic music of Gone.

But you are talking to a U2 fanboi - I grew up on them and it wasn't until about 2005 when I realized they weren't God.

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RoundTheBend
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Speaking of the above...

Do new artists have artistic concepts anymore? I mean beyond just a song - like a theme and the whole shabang?

Or is that too Dadrock?

I'm trying to think of an artist which debuted post 2010... very interested.

bobbyb5

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sethmadsen wrote:

Speaking of the above...

Do new artists have artistic concepts anymore? I mean beyond just a song - like a theme and the whole shabang?

Or is that too Dadrock?

I'm trying to think of an artist which debuted post 2010... very interested.

I think they do have concepts, but they're just not any good. In fact, the problem with most new music is that its nothing BUT concept
I mean the artist himself IS the concept. As if what they're selling is themselves, and not music. Its like " I'm this type of act. Im a rapper, or Im a serious type roots rocker, or Im a post -rock hipster type, or I'm a very passionate diva type or I'm an alt -folkie female type. But thats where it ends. Their music just doesnt deliver. So all you're left with is the role-playing. I would love it if there WAS an artistic concept that they delivered on. But they just dont. Theres exceptions, of course. But nothing like a WORTHWHILE artistic concept. You're right tho. The Pop concept of U2s Pop album was at least backed up by decent musical ideas. And u hardly ever hear any decent musical ideas anymore. At least in rock. I hear them all over the place in electronic music. But maybe my tastes just changed.

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Great job remembering Oasis, seth, they are so massively overrated. And assholes too.
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RoundTheBend
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Daydreamer wrote:

Great job remembering Oasis, seth, they are so massively overrated. And assholes too.

RoundTheBend
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bobbyb5 wrote:

sethmadsen wrote:

Speaking of the above...

Do new artists have artistic concepts anymore? I mean beyond just a song - like a theme and the whole shabang?

Or is that too Dadrock?

I'm trying to think of an artist which debuted post 2010... very interested.

I think they do have concepts, but they're just not any good. In fact, the problem with most new music is that its nothing BUT concept
I mean the artist himself IS the concept. As if what they're selling is themselves, and not music. Its like " I'm this type of act. Im a rapper, or Im a serious type roots rocker, or Im a post -rock hipster type, or I'm a very passionate diva type or I'm an alt -folkie female type. But thats where it ends. Their music just doesnt deliver. So all you're left with is the role-playing. I would love it if there WAS an artistic concept that they delivered on. But they just dont. Theres exceptions, of course. But nothing like a WORTHWHILE artistic concept. You're right tho. The Pop concept of U2s Pop album was at least backed up by decent musical ideas. And u hardly ever hear any decent musical ideas anymore. At least in rock. I hear them all over the place in electronic music. But maybe my tastes just changed.

Good points.

craola
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i disagree. there are great concept albums out there today. granted, it's going to depend on your definition of "concept album" to some degree. the artists who do this well today tend to do it much more abstractly than something like PINK FLOYD or RUSH, and a lot of them take rather instrumental routes...

i'd take any of these over RUSH, PINK FLOYD, etc. in a heartbeat or two:

balam acab: child death
bjork: biophilia
candy claws: ceres calypso & the deep time
cloud cult: light chasers
daisuke tanabe: floating underwater
the haxan cloak: excavation
janelle monae: archandroid
latlaus sky: the end of sorrow
nurses: dracula
panabrite: sub-aquatic meditation
sufjan stevens: carrie & lowell
tyondai braxton: hive1

heck, even our own Hayden and Harkan/Borejko have delved into concept albums.

there's also vaporwave. granted, those weirdos aren't making rock operas, but as a whole, most of the artists are telling the same story about loneliness in our techy-consumer culture.
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bobbyb5

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Location: New York

craola wrote:

i disagree. there are great concept albums out there today. granted, it's going to depend on your definition of "concept album" to some degree. the artists who do this well today tend to do it much more abstractly than something like PINK FLOYD or RUSH, and a lot of them take rather instrumental routes...

i'd take any of these over RUSH, PINK FLOYD, etc. in a heartbeat or two:

balam acab: child death
bjork: biophilia
candy claws: ceres calypso & the deep time
cloud cult: light chasers
daisuke tanabe: floating underwater
the haxan cloak: excavation
janelle monae: archandroid
latlaus sky: the end of sorrow
nurses: dracula
panabrite: sub-aquatic meditation
sufjan stevens: carrie & lowell
tyondai braxton: hive1

heck, even our own Hayden and Harkan/Borejko have delved into concept albums.

there's also vaporwave. granted, those weirdos aren't making rock operas, but as a whole, most of the artists are telling the same story about loneliness in our techy-consumer culture.

Yeah. Loneliness in modern life or alienation or technology taking over the world. I like concept albums to be sensationalistic and cheap Sci-fi and alien lifeforms battling humans, or science run amok. Technology run amok etc. You know, cheap thrills. lol. My favorites are by Dieselboy. He makes concept albums that are actually drum n bass mix albums. With those kind of subjects. He may s up the stories to go with it. Not very coherent. But fun.