In the Aeroplane Over the Sea -400% slower ver./give a listn - Music

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Cymro2011 wrote:

The people with the worst voices are usually the best vocalists.

I'd like to understand what you mean here, because it just sounds like a mindfuck.

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drakonium wrote:

I'd like to understand what you mean here, because it just sounds like a mindfuck.

It's about conveying emotion. Being pitch perfect don't count for squat if the vocalist is a vacuous twat.

Now, can we get back on topic? I would have another slow experiment to suggest but my speaker system just bought it.

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I just tried to do this with Show Em Watcha Got by Public Enemy, and it's the worst thing I've ever heard. The saxophone sample sounds like a dying elephant, and Chuck D and Flavor Flav sounds like they are being tortured in slow motion. It's actually quite frightening

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drakonium wrote:

I'd like to understand what you mean here, because it just sounds like a mindfuck.

Lou Reed, Bob Dylan, Jello Biafra,<insert any punk rock vocalist here> etc.

The good vocalists are never the ones that can hit all the high notes and sound perfect. The good ones just incorporate a singing voice that's unique to them and try and make it work.

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Cymro2011 wrote:

The good vocalists are never the ones that can hit all the high notes and sound perfect. The good ones just incorporate a singing voice that's unique to them and try and make it work.

I dunno, could you really say that singing well and singing with emotion are mutually exclusive? I mean, two of my favourite vocalists are Peter Gabriel and Peter Hammill and I think both of THOSE guys have a lot of control over their voices and yet they convey emotion hugely to me. I love Jeff Mangum too, of course: he really does manage to make the fact that he's clearly not a great singer work for him through his sheer passion. I just don't think you can really say "Good singer = bad singer", honestly.

Oh, and these experiments are, uh, interesting. Yeah, that just about covers it.

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Cymro2011 wrote:

Lou Reed, Bob Dylan, Jello Biafra,<insert any punk rock vocalist here> etc.

The good vocalists are never the ones that can hit all the high notes and sound perfect. The good ones just incorporate a singing voice that's unique to them and try and make it work.

OK, if you say it that way I agree to an extent. The voice of a singer is more important than his/her technical ability. However, the later does play a major role in the artist's sound. Radiohead would not have been what they are if Yorke hadn't been able to reach super-high notes, and Cocteau Twins would not have sounded the same if not for the vocal acrobatics of Frazer.

What made no sense in your previous post was the use of the word "worst". You meant "unique". If you take a random person in the street (who probably has a "bad" voice), (s)he won't be more interesting than a professional singer, whatever the later sounds like.

Also, I don't think Jello Biafra has a "bad" voice. It's unique, not bad. And I do believe that Joe Strummer and Feargal Sharkey (from The Undertones) have technically fantastic voices while singing punk.

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drakonium wrote:

What made no sense in your previous post was the use of the word "worst". You meant "unique". If you take a random person in the street (who probably has a "bad" voice), (s)he won't be more interesting than a professional singer, whatever the later sounds like.

Also, I don't think Jello Biafra has a "bad" voice. It's unique, not bad. And I do believe that Joe Strummer and Feargal Sharkey (from The Undertones) have technically fantastic voices while singing punk.

Actually yeah, "worst" was a bad word to choose. What I kind of meant was that some vocalists change the way they sing to compensate for their vocal limits. For what you said about Strummer and Sharkey the thing about punk rock is that the vocals are expected to be as all over the place and ragged as the music itself and the quality of the vocals just really doesn't matter for them so for punk they're pretty perfect.

....but yeah, again, your right about Biafra. I should have chosen someone different to list. I fucking love his warbley singing style.

Also i'd just like to apologize if I sound like an idiot right now. I suck at putting my thoughts into words.

drakonium

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Cymro2011 wrote:

Actually yeah, "worst" was a bad word to choose. What I kind of meant was that some vocalists change the way they sing to compensate for their vocal limits. For what you said about Strummer and Sharkey the thing about punk rock is that the vocals are expected to be as all over the place and ragged as the music itself and the quality of the vocals just really doesn't matter for them so for punk they're pretty perfect.

....but yeah, again, your right about Biafra. I should have chosen someone different to list. I fucking love his warbley singing style.

Also i'd just like to apologize if I sound like an idiot right now. I suck at putting my thoughts into words.

Haha, no problem, the idiot may be me for picking you on wrong words Wink

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