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junodog4
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- #251
- Posted: 07/15/2013 16:28
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I understand how race became an issue in the Zimmerman case...
...but isn't age and gender an issue as well? I wonder if anyone has considered Zimmerman's opinion of youth. How many people are unfairly suspicious of teenagers?
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alelsupreme
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- #252
- Posted: 07/15/2013 17:23
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I don't see how gender could possibly play into this.
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- #253
- Posted: 07/15/2013 17:47
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| itsit wrote: | | I don't see how gender could possibly play into this. |
Martin was:
Young
Black
Male
if any one of those features had been different it's less likely Zimmerman would have felt threatened by and then pursued and subsequently murdered Trayvon Martin.
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RockyRaccoon
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- #254
- Posted: 07/15/2013 17:59
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What kills me about this whole trial is the kind of attention it got. Granted, the killing of a human being, especially a young one, is terrible, but it happens all the time. Why is this one so special? Because it's a circus. It's not news, it's just like Casey Anthony. The Zimmerman verdict could happen anywhere and it often does. I live near Baltimore, Maryland, and I can't tell you how many people get murdered in west Baltimore alone in a year. People just like to watch this on the news, make their own judgements, and then root for their side like it's some kind of sport. The Zimmerman trial should've never been all over the news because it wasn't news.
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- #255
- Posted: 07/15/2013 18:11
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| RockyRaccoon wrote: | | What kills me about this whole trial is the kind of attention it got. Granted, the killing of a human being, especially a young one, is terrible, but it happens all the time. Why is this one so special? Because it's a circus. It's not news, it's just like Casey Anthony. The Zimmerman verdict could happen anywhere and it often does. I live near Baltimore, Maryland, and I can't tell you how many people get murdered in west Baltimore alone in a year. People just like to watch this on the news, make their own judgements, and then root for their side like it's some kind of sport. The Zimmerman trial should've never been all over the news because it wasn't news. |
*Clapping because I agree with you*
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- #256
- Posted: 07/15/2013 18:16
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I agree on the Casey Anthony trial being a circus. The Zimmerman case needed to get attention so that the issues involved in it could be discussed and examined at an international level.
Obama has already commented in the last 24 hours "We should ask ourselves if we're doing all we can to stem the tide of gun violence that claims too many lives across this country on a daily basis. We should ask ourselves, as individuals and as a society, how we can prevent future tragedies like this. As citizens, that's a job for all of us. That's the way to honor Trayvon Martin."
Cases like this one and Sandy Hook and other cases involving gun violence should constantly be under the spotlight so that America can (and gradually will) enact laws that further criminalise firearms.
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RockyRaccoon
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- #257
- Posted: 07/15/2013 18:26
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| Quote: | | Cases like this one and Sandy Hook and other cases involving gun violence should constantly be under the spotlight so that America can (and gradually will) enact laws that further criminalise firearms. |
While I agree that gun violence is something that certainly needs to be addressed as soon as possible, I don't think this case compares with Sandy Hook. Mass shootings, yes, they should be in the news, they're important to cover. But the Zimmerman case was not something special compared to murders in the rest of the country. It's no different than some 17-year-old kid getting shot in a gang shootout. Sure, the contents of the case are different, but generally speaking, it's another murder. Not to trivialize it by calling it "another murder", murder's aren't something to be trivialized, but there are other things to report on, things that are actually important. Our economy, this NSA thing, the gradual and completely unchecked rising global temperatures, things that actually matter. If we want to talk about gun control in the national spotlight, yes, let's do it, but we don't need to publicize a random murder to do it.
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HigherThanTheSun
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- #258
- Posted: 07/15/2013 18:31
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There's quite a few things about this case that make it far more remarkable than just any other murder and I don't really see how you could argue it's not newsworthy. I'd actually find it pretty scary if this sort of murder didn't make the news, given all the circumstances. Whether you agree with the verdict or not, the shooting of an unarmed teenager in these circumstances definitely deserves scrutiny IMO, would be the biggest news story of the decade if it happened here.
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- #259
- Posted: 07/15/2013 19:12
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I'm not completely abreast of all the facts presented in the case but from what I do know, I hope the Martin parents can afford to bring a civil suit or a civil rights suit
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junodog4
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- #260
- Posted: 07/16/2013 02:11
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| ptaylor1989 wrote: | | I'm not completely abreast of all the facts presented in the case but from what I do know, I hope the Martin parents can afford to bring a civil suit or a civil rights suit |
Even if they couldn't afford it, people will step up to make sure they can.
What makes me sad about Zimmerman is the mindset that went into his actions. It's a sad state of affairs when a community feels the need to have armed volunteers protecting the neighbourhood. Further, it's indicative of Zimmerman's, if not America's mindset where a young male (black too) is something to suspect. In my community a kid in a hoodie might look like trouble, but that would be the extent of it. Nobody would follow him around. Maybe the odd kid would be up to no good, but many would be walking home from getting snacks.
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