Intellect In Music

[meccalecca]

[Kiki]

[Happymeal]

Describing music can be difficult, but I tend to think I've come to terms with why I listen to the music I do and what makes it so good. What makes bad music the way it sounds to me is also fairly easy for me to comprehend, but I could never use the word pretentious. I don't get how it has any meaning regarding art. Someone attempts to do something or say something outside of their range of intelligence and they're hated for that? Perhaps they do show pride in the ignorance they might uphold, but at least they attempted to do something they might not have the necessary skills to achieve. Even if something is a failure in result of not being intelligent or skilled enough, failure can show you new ways to succeed. Using that logic, it's really difficult for pretension to come to me when looking at music. However, I feel pretension may have lost that meaning to a lot of people a while ago. When I hear pretension and certain albums in a sentence, it feels more similar to saying that x album bored me because it was overly caught up in attempting to achieve something that I didn't feel necessary. Perhaps that's more accurate? Bland is also another difficult word for me to use mainly because I listen to a lot of acclaimed music that sounds bland in comparison to its genre as a whole. A lot of the words used around here for criticisms of certain music have really become boring to hear. It'd be nice to hear something different said about music more often.

P.S. That doesn't mean it'd be incorrect to speak about music the way you want to and have been, these are just a few personal qualms I have when listening and reading what people have to say about certain music.

[meccalecca]

[bongritsu]

I really like both sides of the spectrum when it come to music. I really like challenging music dominated by "intelligent" or at least "high brow" listeners like noise, experimental, avant grade ect... But I also really love "meat head" music like southern hip hop songs that read like asset reports and power violence and stuff...

I have always been a "extremes" kind of guy

But at the ""end"" of the """"day"""" I don't "think" it """""matters""""*

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[meccalecca]

[manurock]

[benpaco]

[drakonium]

#addingmytwocents, the word "pretentious" does not necessarily imply intelligence. I mean, being pretentious is silly, but it doesn't always mean "thinking we are more intelligent than we really are". A mediocre guitarist trying to boast his skills for a hour-long solo is pretentious, but that doesn't tell anything about his intelligence. I think these two things should be separated.

Just trying to defend the use of pretentious, because I do like to use it once in a while. So I disagree with Gowi's definition : it does not insult the intelligence of the artist (or at least, not necessarily), but in most cases, his talent. Which is fine, right? Like, saying a rapper's flow is shit or some guy's songwriting is awful is something we often do. It just means that in our opinion, the artist is trying to show off something in a way or another, but that whatever they are trying to show, it's not as good as they think it is.