WE would destroy CHINA and IRAN and RUSSIA.... they have nothing on us! just because they have a billion people doesn't mean they're technologically superior. WE spend more on our military than the rest of the world combined!!! that is a fact.... I'm sure we have 3 times more nukes than everyone else too.... I think you're underestimating your people GARY. If we had a real war not this crappy guerrilla warfare in IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, VIETNAM, but a real war like WW2, we would easily come out on top, hell i would argue that we need a war! Maybe attacking CHINA would sever our free trade and make us start to manufacture our own products!
It's not the quantity but the quality that counts.
True. But China in particular has upgraded and modernized it's military strength and weapons more than any other nation, over the last 10 years especially.
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this is a chart of 2010 military spending... we spend more than the next 17 nations combined!!!! thats 11 times more than Russia, we would sweep the floor with any other modern military, China and Russia wouldn't even come close it would be a bloodbath. And does Iran even have a military? a raghead on a camel? they don't even have support of thier people, how would they go to war there would be massive uprisings in Tehran.
also that isn't even the fully disclosed amount America spends, the wars are not counted as part of the military budget, also veterans pensions are not included, so the real is probably much higher. No wonder this country is broke.
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i guarantee you that the only reason Russia and China support Iran is because Iran keeps America's attention, American's are more afraid of Muslims than Communists. If Iran wasn't in the news all the time then Russia and China would be thrust into the "evil" countries group.
this is a chart of 2010 military spending... we spend more than the next 17 nations combined!!!! thats 11 times more than Russia, we would sweep the floor with any other modern military, China and Russia wouldn't even come close it would be a bloodbath. And does Iran even have a military? a raghead on a camel? they don't even have support of thier people, how would they go to war there would be massive uprisings in Tehran.
You do know that your chart includes the money the U.S. spends 2 maintain military bases in almost every nation on earth don't you?
Hence it does not reflect how much was spent on actual weapons.
Also, as far as your statement " does Iran even have a military? a raghead on a camel?"
Let's compare Iran 2 Australia for example
AUSTRALIA
PERSONNEL
Total Population: 21,766,711 [2011]
Available Manpower: 10,433,186 [2011]
Fit for Service: 8,651,943 [2011]
Of Military Age: 279,365 [2011]
Active Military: 57,500 [2011]
Active Reserve: 25,000 [2011]
LAND ARMY
Total Land Weapons: 3,259
Tanks: 59 [2011]
APCs / IFVs: 1,861 [2011]
Towed Artillery: 303 [2011]
SPGs: 0 [2011]
MLRSs: 36 [2011]
Mortars: 1,000 [2011]
AT Weapons: 500 [2011]
AA Weapons: 100 [2011]
Logistical Vehicles: 12,495
Total Population: 77,891,220 [2011]
Available Manpower: 46,247,556 [2011]
Fit for Service: 39,556,497 [2011]
Of Military Age: 1,392,483 [2011]
Active Military: 545,000 [2011]
Active Reserve: 650,000 [2011]
LAND ARMY
Total Land Weapons: 12,393
Tanks: 1,793 [2011]
APCs / IFVs: 1,560 [2011]
Towed Artillery: 1,575 [2011]
SPGs: 865 [2011]
MLRSs: 200 [2011]
Mortars: 5,000 [2011]
AT Weapons: 1,400 [2011]
AA Weapons: 1,701 [2011]
Logistical Vehicles: 12,000
WE would destroy CHINA and IRAN and RUSSIA.... they have nothing on us!
O.K. let's look under the hood and check a few things jbarajas.
I will use 2011 data and combine Iran, Russia, and China and compare their strength compared 2 that of the U.S.A.
I.R.C. (Iran, Russia, China) vs. U.S.A.
Population
I.R.C. = 1,553,349,127
U.S.A. = 313,232,044
Active military
I.R.C. = 4,030,000
U.S.A. = 1,477,896
Reserves
I.R.C. = 2,204,000
U.S.A. = 1,458,500
Tanks
I.R.C. = 32,213
U.S.A. = 9,573
Submarines
I.R.C. = 122
U.S.A. = 75
Towed artillery
I.R.C. = 17,290
U.S.A. = 2,163
Oil production
I.R.C. = 18,283,000
U.S.A. = 9,056,000
Anti aircraft weaponry
I.R.C. = 7,095
U.S.A. = 2,106
Frigates
I.R.C. = 68
U.S.A. = 30
.
this just means we have more targets to blow up.... Iran's military is a joke, they don't even have a nuke! . Those chinese yes theres a billion of them but you need at least 3 of them shooting simultaneously to achieve what a normal human can see, i mean do. And those Russians all of their equipment is still from the cold war.
You do know that your chart includes the money the U.S. spends 2 maintain military bases in almost every nation on earth don't you?
Hence it does not reflect how much was spent on actual weapons.
Also, as far as your statement " does Iran even have a military? a raghead on a camel?"
Let's compare Iran 2 Australia for example
AUSTRALIA
PERSONNEL
Total Population: 21,766,711 [2011]
Available Manpower: 10,433,186 [2011]
Fit for Service: 8,651,943 [2011]
Of Military Age: 279,365 [2011]
Active Military: 57,500 [2011]
Active Reserve: 25,000 [2011]
LAND ARMY
Total Land Weapons: 3,259
Tanks: 59 [2011]
APCs / IFVs: 1,861 [2011]
Towed Artillery: 303 [2011]
SPGs: 0 [2011]
MLRSs: 36 [2011]
Mortars: 1,000 [2011]
AT Weapons: 500 [2011]
AA Weapons: 100 [2011]
Logistical Vehicles: 12,495
Total Population: 77,891,220 [2011]
Available Manpower: 46,247,556 [2011]
Fit for Service: 39,556,497 [2011]
Of Military Age: 1,392,483 [2011]
Active Military: 545,000 [2011]
Active Reserve: 650,000 [2011]
LAND ARMY
Total Land Weapons: 12,393
Tanks: 1,793 [2011]
APCs / IFVs: 1,560 [2011]
Towed Artillery: 1,575 [2011]
SPGs: 865 [2011]
MLRSs: 200 [2011]
Mortars: 5,000 [2011]
AT Weapons: 1,400 [2011]
AA Weapons: 1,701 [2011]
Logistical Vehicles: 12,000
Really we should just have a "sherman march to the sea" type of attack on Iran and just destroy everything... burn everything, kill everyone, The burning of Tehran sounds like it would be remembered in the history books. I'm sure that would satisfy the jews, it would make us the heroes.
WE would destroy CHINA and IRAN and RUSSIA.... they have nothing on us!
O.K. let's look under the hood and check a few things jbarajas.
I will use 2011 data and combine Iran, Russia, and China and compare their strength compared 2 that of the U.S.A.
I.R.C. (Iran, Russia, China) vs. U.S.A.
Population
I.R.C. = 1,553,349,127
U.S.A. = 313,232,044
Active military
I.R.C. = 4,030,000
U.S.A. = 1,477,896
Reserves
I.R.C. = 2,204,000
U.S.A. = 1,458,500
Tanks
I.R.C. = 32,213
U.S.A. = 9,573
Submarines
I.R.C. = 122
U.S.A. = 75
Towed artillery
I.R.C. = 17,290
U.S.A. = 2,163
Oil production
I.R.C. = 18,283,000
U.S.A. = 9,056,000
Anti aircraft weaponry
I.R.C. = 7,095
U.S.A. = 2,106
Frigates
I.R.C. = 68
U.S.A. = 30
.
this just means we have more targets to blow up.... Iran's military is a joke, they don't even have a nuke! . Those chinese yes theres a billion of them but you need at least 3 of them shooting simultaneously to achieve what a normal human can see, i mean do. And those Russians all of their equipment is still from the cold war.
I tried to put myself in China's place as far as what I would be thinking about the western nations and the U.S.A. in particular. How would I feel about America, who owes me over $1,000,000,000,000.00 has a government that just voted to barely cut it's out of control spending instead of making a real effort to start paying it's bills. How would I feel about the U.S. continuing to shoot missels (at a cost of $1,000,000.00 a piece) into contries that never attacked, nor even threatened America.
Needless to say I would be PISSED OFF. So I wondered, because this is exactly what the U.S. has been doing, and playing sheriff all over the world for decades now, what threat is China to America when they decide to cash in their chips and we can't pay them?
Well, China has been a sleeping giant for 4,000 years. But in my opinion there is soon to be a new sheriff in town.
The younger people on this site, which is the vast majority, are used to the fact that most everything they buy was made in China. But I remeber back in 70's EVERYTHING WAS MADE IN THE U.S.A. Just take a good look at cities like Milwaukee (place of my birth) Chicago, Gary Indiana, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cleveland and the major steel manufacturing cities of America. They were once thriving wealthy cities where anybody with a 6th. grade education could get a job at the big factories and recieve an income where they could afford a house, car, boat etc. Now these cities, for the most part, are Hell holes of dispair with vacant lots, burned out houses, and where you are fortunate to have a job working for McDonalds. AFTER YOU GET YOUR COLLEGE DEGREE.
This is part of Detroit Michigan. This was a thriving wealthy neighborhood full of nice houses. Now it's mostly empty lots and the houses that still remain are mostly burned out crack houses. The police don't even come there.
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City in China.
I'm going to give a Bible quote, just 1, so don't freak. You probably don't believe in the God of the Bible. But I ask you at this time to at least consider the prophesies within it. I'll tell you a secret. For many years I've been asking people to show me 1, just 1, prophesy in the Bible that failed to come true. Nobody has ever been able to. This particular prophesy is about an event that is to take place in the end of days. Which, IMO, we are now living in. Remember, there were LESS THAN 200 million people living on the earth at the time this was written.
REVELATION 9:16
And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand (200 million) and I heard the number of them. Up until very recently there has never been a nation or kingdom that could field a million man army. But there now is. China.
consider the fact that for the last 10 years China has doubled it's military expenditure each of the 10 years.
I love my country. But I have lost all respect for it's federal government. IMO we have insulted China and showed them no respect. So I ask you this. What are we going to do if say, N.Korea, which is run by true psychopaths, attacks S.Korea. Again. is our president going to say "we condem your actions" Will he, or she, drop bombs on N.Korea?
What happens when China finally says THAT'S IT AMERICA. The Bible prophesy I gave continues on to say that this 200 million man force will kill 1/3 of the people on earth. That would be over 2 billion people. China doesn't have that kind of weapons right. Don't they have like old tanks from the 50's and outdated aircraft and ships.
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. Those chinese yes theres a billion of them but you need at least 3 of them shooting simultaneously to achieve what a normal human can see, i mean do. 
And those Russians all of their equipment is still from the cold war.
