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RoundTheBend
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- #31
- Posted: 07/03/2017 05:30
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| bobbyb5 wrote: | | And don't forget, every non- Motown girl group were from New York too. |
Cool - who?
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bobbyb5
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- #32
- Posted: 07/03/2017 06:27
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| sethmadsen wrote: | | Cool - who? |
The Shangri-las
The Shirelles
The Ronettes
The Chiffons
The Cookies
The Exciters
The Blossoms
The Jaynetts
Little Eva
Lesley Gore
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bobbyb5
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- #33
- Posted: 07/03/2017 06:47
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| bobbyb5 wrote: | The Shangri-las
The Shirelles
The Ronettes
The Chiffons
The Cookies
The Exciters
The Blossoms
The Jaynetts
Little Eva
Lesley Gore |
I forgot my favorites, and, the best. The Crystals.
Also, the Chantels, the very first one.
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RoundTheBend
I miss the comfort in being sad
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- #34
- Posted: 07/03/2017 13:48
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| bobbyb5 wrote: | | bobbyb5 wrote: | The Shangri-las
The Shirelles
The Ronettes
The Chiffons
The Cookies
The Exciters
The Blossoms
The Jaynetts
Little Eva
Lesley Gore |
I forgot my favorites, and, the best. The Crystals.
Also, the Chantels, the very first one. |
Nice! It is a bit ironic we often say Motown to describe a sound, yet a lot of it didn't come from there. It's like you have to be a musicologist to use the word right. And then what, it's just R&B if not from Motown? This is why I get frustrated with strict use of genres.
RE: Kansas City - just reminded me of that song, not that it was written there. Enjoy!
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Repo
BeA Sunflower
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- #35
- Posted: 07/03/2017 14:18
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Providence! 
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bobbyb5
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- #36
- Posted: 07/03/2017 16:17
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| sethmadsen wrote: | | bobbyb5 wrote: | | bobbyb5 wrote: | The Shangri-las
The Shirelles
The Ronettes
The Chiffons
The Cookies
The Exciters
The Blossoms
The Jaynetts
Little Eva
Lesley Gore |
I forgot my favorites, and, the best. The Crystals.
Also, the Chantels, the very first one. |
Nice! It is a bit ironic we often say Motown to describe a sound, yet a lot of it didn't come from there. It's like you have to be a musicologist to use the word right. And then what, it's just R&B if not from Motown? This is why I get frustrated with strict use of genres.
RE: Kansas City - just reminded me of that song, not that it was written there. Enjoy! |
I used the word non-Motown literally, to mean they weren't on the Motown label. And therefore not from Detroit, but NY. And most of them were ;involved with Phil Spector or Carole King. Phil Spector's famous Wall of Sound production style is almost as associated with girl groups as Motown is. Motown didnt produce nearly the amount of girl groups as NY did, but definitely the most successful: The Supremes etc. Back in those days, the 60s girl groups were considered to be pop or rock and roll, and R & B was a whole other thing. Nowadays we use these terms differently than they did then.
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BeA Sunflower
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- #37
- Posted: 07/03/2017 16:26
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| bobbyb5 wrote: | | sethmadsen wrote: | | bobbyb5 wrote: | | bobbyb5 wrote: | The Shangri-las
The Shirelles
The Ronettes
The Chiffons
The Cookies
The Exciters
The Blossoms
The Jaynetts
Little Eva
Lesley Gore |
I forgot my favorites, and, the best. The Crystals.
Also, the Chantels, the very first one. |
Nice! It is a bit ironic we often say Motown to describe a sound, yet a lot of it didn't come from there. It's like you have to be a musicologist to use the word right. And then what, it's just R&B if not from Motown? This is why I get frustrated with strict use of genres.
RE: Kansas City - just reminded me of that song, not that it was written there. Enjoy! |
I used the word non-Motown literally, to mean they weren't on the Motown label. And therefore not from Detroit, but NY. And most of them were ;involved with Phil Spector or Carole King. Phil Spector's famous Wall of Sound production style is almost as associated with girl groups as Motown is. Motown didnt produce nearly the amount of girl groups as NY did, but definitely the most successful: The Supremes etc. Back in those days, the 60s girl groups were considered to be pop or rock and roll, and R & B was a whole other thing. Nowadays we use these terms differently than they did then. |
Nice! I didn't know that. I love that Motown/Wall of Sound stuff and use terms interchangeably myself. Did Spector ever produce any of those Motown bands or did the two scenes develop totally independently?
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bobbyb5
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- #38
- Posted: 07/03/2017 16:40
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| Tilly wrote: | | Providence! |
Combustible Edison i know are from Providence. Who are some more?
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bobbyb5
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- #39
- Posted: 07/03/2017 17:04
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| Tilly wrote: | | bobbyb5 wrote: | | sethmadsen wrote: | | bobbyb5 wrote: | | bobb yb5 wrote: | The Shangri-las
The Shirelles
The Ronettes
The Chiffons
The Cookies
The Exciters
The Blossoms
The Jaynetts
Little Eva
Lesley Gore |
I forgot my favorites, and, the best. The Crystals.
Also, the Chantels, the very first one. |
Nice! It is a bit ironic we often say Motown to describe a sound, yet a lot of it didn't come from there. It's like you have to be a musicologist to use the word right. And then what, it's just R&B if not from Motown? This is why I get frustrated with strict use of genres.
RE: Kansas City - just reminded me of that song, not that it was written there. Enjoy! |
I used the word non-Motown literally, to mean they weren't on the Motown label. And therefore not from Detroit, but NY. And most of them were ;involved with Phil Spector or Carole King. Phil Spector's famous Wall of Sound production style is almost as associated with girl groups as Motown is. Motown didnt produce nearly the amount of girl groups as NY did, but definitely the most successful: The Supremes etc. Back in those days, the 60s girl groups were considered to be pop or rock and roll, and R & B was a whole other thing. Nowadays we use these terms differently than they did then. |
Nice! I didn't know that. I love that Motown/Wall of Sound stuff and use terms interchangeably myself. Did Spector ever produce any of those Motown bands or did the two scenes develop totally independently? |
No, Motown was totally self- contained. They had their own producers, writers, musicians, everything. They didnt use anyone from the outside. You had to be under contract. And if u were under contract at Motown, u couldnt work anywhere else. Kind of like the old movie studios. Yeah, the NY and Motown scenes developed independently. None of the same people were involved.
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bobbyb5
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- Posted: 07/03/2017 17:16
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I read some books by people who worked at Motown, and they tell how Motown even had its own hairdressers, dressmakers, dance teachers to teach em their moves, even wig makers. They had everything.
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