Users posting suspiciously similar charts

[Kiki]

So I was on the page for Kate Bush - Director's Cut today because some people were posting there. Out of curiosity I had a look at some of the charts to rate a few. While looking I noticed something a bit odd. A lot of these charts had very simular albums and artists. First it was two but then it became 3 and 4 and so on. This looks awfully suspicious to me. So I copy and pasted a bunch of scores from the albums and... well I would like you to do your own investigation and tell me what you think. Check out the charts for the following users:

Mark Spencer
Pawel Krok
Vincent Liben
Onet
plato66
tmsobow
ganggang
Sazka
Marek Antoniusz

Lets have a look at the albums they share:

9 charts:

Kate Bush - The Dreaming
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 3/50 96
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 1/50 100
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 1/50 100
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 1/50 100
2011 plato66 Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 4/50 94
2011 Pawel Krok Top 40 Greatest Music Albums 4/40 93
2011 tmsobow Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 1/50 100
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 1/50 100
2011 Vincent Liben Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 7/50 88

Kate Bush - Director's Cut
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 5/50 92
2011 plato66 Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 38/50 26
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 3/50 96
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 3/50 96
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 4/50 94
2011 Pawel Krok Top 40 Greatest Music Albums 6/40 88
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 2/50 98
2011 Vincent Liben Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 20/50 62
2011 tmsobow Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 12/50 78

Kate Bush - Aerial
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 18/50 66
2011 plato66 Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 13/50 76
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 7/50 88
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 3/50 96
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 8/50 86
2011 Pawel Krok Top 40 Greatest Music Albums 30/40 28
2011 tmsobow Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 42/50 18
2011 Vincent Liben Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 48/50 6
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 10/50 82

8 charts:

Kate Bush - The Sensual World
2011 plato66 Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 29/50 44
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 13/50 76
2011 Pawel Krok Top 40 Greatest Music Albums 20/40 53
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 20/50 62
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 4/50 94
2011 tmsobow Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 17/50 68
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 17/50 68
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 44/50 14

Radiohead - In Rainbows
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 14/50 74
2011 Pawel Krok Top 40 Greatest Music Albums 38/40 8
2011 Vincent Liben Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 42/50 18
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 23/50 56
2011 plato66 Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 5/50 92
2011 tmsobow Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 9/50 84
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 14/50 74
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 12/50 78

7 charts:

Kate Bush - Hounds Of Love
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 21/50 60
2011 plato66 Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 8/50 86
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 8/50 86
2011 tmsobow Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 7/50 88
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 38/50 26
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 31/50 40
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 34/50 34

The Police - Ghost In The Machine
2011 Pawel Krok Top 40 Greatest Music Albums 19/40 55
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 12/50 78
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 27/50 48
2011 tmsobow Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 23/50 56
2011 plato66 Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 20/50 62
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 5/50 92
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 21/50 60

The Police - Zenyatta Mondatta
2011 plato66 Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 10/50 82
2011 Pawel Krok Top 40 Greatest Music Albums 10/40 78
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 18/50 66
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 5/50 92
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 4/50 94
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 26/50 50
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 5/50 92

Sting - ...Nothing Like The Sun
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 5/50 92
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 9/50 84
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 14/50 74
2011 plato66 Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 18/50 66
2011 Pawel Krok Top 40 Greatest Music Albums 26/40 38
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 13/50 76
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 37/50 28

Tori Amos - Boys For Pele
2011 tmsobow Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 8/50 86
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 17/50 68
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 4/50 94
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 8/50 86
2011 plato66 Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 9/50 84
2011 Pawel Krok Top 40 Greatest Music Albums 18/40 58
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 22/50 58

Police - Synchronicity
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 14/50 74
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 25/50 52
2011 plato66 Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 1/50 100
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 27/50 48
2011 tmsobow Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 5/50 92
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 41/50 20
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 28/50 46


6 charts:

Benjamin Boy - Rose Kennedy
2011 Vincent Liben Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 28/50 46
2011 plato66 Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 47/50 8
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 30/50 42
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 18/50 66
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 24/50 54
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 17/50 68

Pearl Jam - Ten
2011 Pawel Krok Top 40 Greatest Music Albums 32/40 23
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 26/50 50
2011 plato66 Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 2/50 98
2011 tmsobow Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 3/50 96
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 39/50 24
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 10/50 82

Ewa Demarczyk - Ewa Demarczyk spiewa Piosenki Zygmunta Koniecznego
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 33/50 36
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 19/50 64
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 15/50 72
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 3/50 96
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 16/50 70
2011 tmsobow Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 11/50 80

Sting - Mercury Falling
2011 Pawel Krok Top 40 Greatest Music Albums 25/40 40
2011 tmsobow Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 33/50 36
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 37/50 28
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 36/50 30
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 33/50 36
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 40/50 22


5 charts:

Kate Bush - The Kick Inside
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 6/50 90
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 40/50 22
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 46/50 10
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 31/50 40
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 39/50 24

Kate Bush - The Red Shoes
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 7/50 88
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 29/50 44
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 26/50 50
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 13/50 76
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 30/50 42

Radiohead - The King Of Limbs
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 6/50 90
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 10/50 82
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 11/50 80
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 14/50 74
2011 Pawel Krok Top 40 Greatest Music Albums 39/40 5

Jean-Claude Vannier - L'Enfant Assassin Des Mouches
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 11/50 80
2011 Vincent Liben Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 8/50 86
2011 tmsobow Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 19/50 64
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 11/50 80
2011 plato66 Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 30/50 42

Tori Amos - Little Earthquakes
2011 tmsobow Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 24/50 54
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 25/50 52
2011 plato66 Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 23/50 56
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 34/50 34
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 29/50 44

Suede - Suede
2011 plato66 Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 19/50 64
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 41/50 20
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 6/50 90
2011 tmsobow Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 14/50 74
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 42/50 18

Arcade Fire - The Suburbs
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 18/50 66
2011 Pawel Krok Top 40 Greatest Music Albums 14/40 68
2011 plato66 Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 37/50 28
2011 tmsobow Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 29/50 44
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 35/50 32

Suede - Dog Man Star
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 2/50 98
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 2/50 98
2011 plato66 Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 40/50 22
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 2/50 98
2011 tmsobow Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 48/50 6

Pj Harvey - Let England Shake
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 43/50 16
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 16/50 70
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 7/50 88
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 46/50 10
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 16/50 70

Marek Grechuta - Korowod
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 50/50 2
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 16/50 70
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 12/50 78
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 48/50 6
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 49/50 4

4 charts:

Sting - Ten Summoner's Tales
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 12/50 78
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 28/50 46
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 15/50 72
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 39/50 24

Czeslaw Niemen - Enigmatic
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 27/50 48
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 20/50 62
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 17/50 68
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 6/50 90

Sting - The Dream of The Blue Turtles
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 45/50 12
2011 plato66 Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 14/50 74
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 28/50 46
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 11/50 80

Histoire De Melody Nelson - Serge Gainsbourg
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 1/50 100
2011 Vincent Liben Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 4/50 94
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 19/50
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 7/50

Pearl Jam - Backspacer
2011 Pawel Krok Top 40 Greatest Music Albums 31/40 25
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 29/50 44
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 23/50 56
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 46/50 10

Tori Amos - Under The Pink
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 32/50 38
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 30/50 42
2011 Pawel Krok Top 40 Greatest Music Albums 40/40 3
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 40/50 22

3 charts:

Portishead - Dummy
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 19/50 64
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 15/50 72
2011 tmsobow Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 20/50 62

Sting - The Soul Cages
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 38/50 26
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 10/50 82
2011 Saszka Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 15/50 72

Bon Iver - For Emma, Forever Ago
2011 Pawel Krok Top 40 Greatest Music Albums 7/40 85
2011 Vincent Liben Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 21/50 60
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 44/50 14

Kate Bush - Never For Ever
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 48/50 6
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 38/50 26
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 9/50 84

Nick Drake - Five Leaves Left
2011 Pawel Krok Top 40 Greatest Music Albums 8/40 83
2011 Onet Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 2/50 98
2011 Vincent Liben Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 38/50 26

Kate Bush - Lionheart
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 49/50 4
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 43/50 16
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 21/50 60

Bon Iver - Bon Iver
2011 Mark Spencer Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 45/50 12
2011 Vincent Liben Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 10/50 82
2011 Pawel Krok Top 40 Greatest Music Albums 1/40 100

Waterboys - A Pagan Place
2011 Pawel Krok - Top 40 Greatest Music Albums 2/40 98
2011 Onet - Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 13/50 76
2011 plato66 - Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 48/50 6

Pearl Jam - Vitalogy
2011 plato66 Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 41/50 20
2011 Marek Antoniusz Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 41/50 20
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 32/50 38

Pearl Jam - No Code
2011 ganggang Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 34/50 34
2011 plato66 Top 50 Greatest Music Albums 28/50 46
2011 Pawel Krok Top 40 Greatest Music Albums 33/40 20

[GARY]

[RFNAPLES]

I agree that members should not post more than one chart at this time. However it is hard for regular members to detect and prove multiple charts. Perhaps the administrator and moderators are more capable. Nevertheless, a quick look at the "facts" presented does show chart similarities. Might one expect those chart similarities by chance or by fact that they all share a love of certain music?
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[boboland1203]

These two have the same IP address

Tmsobow
Plato66


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[GARY]

#1 | Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 08:39 | Post subject: To members who are registering multiple times
Just a heads-up about people who are registering multiple times and then creating additional charts. Bigger charts are coming in a future release, please be patient!

There are also some members who are creating additional charts, but putting the *same* albums in the additional chart, probably in the hope of bigging up their favourites. This is supposed to be a *fun* site. Trying to 'game' the system by creating duplicate charts is just spoiling it for others who might want to use the information contained in the overall chart. If we see this happening again, the additonal chart will be deleted and your account may be banned.


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[boboland1203]

[RFNAPLES]

While having the same IP address might suggest the same user, I believe more than one person may use the same device. Addiitionally, multiple client devices can appear to share IP addresses: either because they are part of a shared hosting web server environment or because an IPv4 network address translator (NAT) or proxy server acts as an intermediary agent on behalf of its customers, in which case the real originating IP addresses might be hidden from the server receiving a request.
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[GARY]

That's all fine and true I'm sure.

But what does that have to do with the fact that the charts are very similar also.?

Are you saying that it's just "coincidence" that two charts have the same IP address AND albums?
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[Kiki]

Can I point out some of the albums that I have listed? There are some obscure French and Polish ones. Also The Dreaming and Directors cut on all of them. The Dreaming at 1st followed by Dog Man Star in 2nd on two. Same albums by The Police and Sting etc

Rather than Ip adresses and site rules, could I draw attention to some of these albums? We are not talking Nevermind, Ok Computer or Revolver here. Instead albums which had been on 1-14 charts before any of these were last edited.

ganggang and Marek Antoniusz.

Open both the charts up and scroll down together. Perhap Sazka too.

Also all 9 charts are spaced between 3 months. A little bit of a coincidence?