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AfterHours wrote:

Funny

but not a particularly relevant analogy for what I said...

...but one could probably observe each of their qualities and characteristics and determine which are the most contributive to the development of humanity, the animal kingdom and Earth itself.

Time to repurpose and rename this website to Best Ever Animals. Maybe for April 1?

I don't want to derail this thread, so I won't expound, but I disagree strongly.
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baystateoftheart wrote:

AfterHours wrote:

Funny

but not a particularly relevant analogy for what I said...

...but one could probably observe each of their qualities and characteristics and determine which are the most contributive to the development of humanity, the animal kingdom and Earth itself.

Time to repurpose and rename this website to Best Ever Animals. Maybe for April 1?

I don't want to derail this thread, so I won't expound, but I disagree strongly.

It's okay -- it was hardly a serious reply, or intended in a particularly thoughtful, engaging, scientific or philosophical sense (or what-have-you). More an analogy that the criteria I was referring to is all-inclusive (including all art and genres of art). It is drawn from the fundamental purpose of art itself ... so the idea that it is restrictive (etc) is not a relevant analogy, though I do understand the humor and where he was trying to go with it. So a more relevant analogy would be to determine the purpose of the whole animal kingdom in relation to humanity and the planet, and go from there.

But yes, I'm down. We could rate and rank greatest animals! Woohoo Very Happy

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jdenny2018 wrote:

and Bob Dylan is just trying to be Woody Guthrie.

Kinda like how Captain Beefheart was just trying to be Howlin' Wolf. Or how The Doors were just trying to be Roy Orbison. Or how The Rolling Stones were just trying to be Chuck Berry. Or how TS Eliot was just trying to be Sarah Josepha Hale.

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baystateoftheart wrote:

What Bob Dylan albums have you listened to? There is some diversity in his albums, so even if you haven't liked what you've heard so far, it's possible that something for you is out there.

I listened to Blood on the Tracks and was completely unaffected. I've also listened to his hits and been kind of ambivalent towards them. For instance, I don't get why 'Like a Rolling Stone' is considered such an amazing song. But, wahtever.

And to Fischman, his voice isn't really the problem for me. I've listened to Geddy Lee's wail for years so Dylan's nasal tone is nothing to me.

I think what really bothers me is Dylan's 'holier than thou' attitude towards everybody. He's been called a musical prophet, and just the way he talks annoys me how every word drips with cynicism and disdain for everything.
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jdenny2018 wrote:

and Bob Dylan is just trying to be Woody Guthrie. That and Bob Dylan is horribly boring to me.

AfterHours wrote:

Kinda like how Captain Beefheart was just trying to be Howlin' Wolf. Or how The Doors were just trying to be Roy Orbison. Or how The Rolling Stones were just trying to be Chuck Berry. Or how TS Eliot was just trying to be Sarah Josepha Hale.

Think

This comment refers to me listening to Dust Bowl Ballads and immediately thinking that this was pre-electric Bob Dylan.
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AfterHours wrote:

Funny

but not a particularly relevant analogy for what I said...

...but one could probably observe each of their qualities and characteristics and determine which are the most contributive to the development of humanity, the animal kingdom and Earth itself.

Your analogy would be closer if there were multiple tests: climb a tree; hold your breath under water the longest; withstand Antarctic weather the longest etc. It would still be you or me, sitting in that chair, imposing the tests and viewing through whichever lens/lenses we choose.

Seth’s trying to understand why it is he would enjoy he process of these animal olympics, but wouldn’t necessarily like to hang out with the winner.

I’m thinking about if those animals formed a band (even though they may not be the best example of each animal), why it is that they might be able to achieve something greater than the sum of the parts, or achieve something for which there is no test.

It’s a mystery to me, but complexity isn’t always better, and neither is simplicity. Sometimes, if you break things down to their components, the magic quietly steps out the back door, or finds another place to be.

baystateoftheart
Neil Young as a butternut squash

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jdenny2018 wrote:

I listened to Blood on the Tracks and was completely unaffected. I've also listened to his hits and been kind of ambivalent towards them. For instance, I don't get why 'Like a Rolling Stone' is considered such an amazing song. But, wahtever.

And to Fischman, his voice isn't really the problem for me. I've listened to Geddy Lee's wail for years so Dylan's nasal tone is nothing to me.

I think what really bothers me is Dylan's 'holier than thou' attitude towards everybody. He's been called a musical prophet, and just the way he talks annoys me how every word drips with cynicism and disdain for everything.

Hmm... Maybe check out Nashville Skyline. Perhaps his most unpretentious, uncynical work. And I know his voice isn't an issue for you, but that album also features his smoothest vocals. It's Dylan taking on country and doing a damn good job. And it has a duet with Johnny Cash, whom I see you like. My dad dislikes Dylan like you, but loves Nashville Skyline.
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baystateoftheart wrote:

jdenny2018 wrote:

I listened to Blood on the Tracks and was completely unaffected. I've also listened to his hits and been kind of ambivalent towards them. For instance, I don't get why 'Like a Rolling Stone' is considered such an amazing song. But, wahtever.

And to Fischman, his voice isn't really the problem for me. I've listened to Geddy Lee's wail for years so Dylan's nasal tone is nothing to me.

I think what really bothers me is Dylan's 'holier than thou' attitude towards everybody. He's been called a musical prophet, and just the way he talks annoys me how every word drips with cynicism and disdain for everything.

Hmm... Maybe check out Nashville Skyline. Perhaps his most unpretentious, uncynical work. And I know his voice isn't an issue for you, but that album also features his smoothest vocals. It's Dylan taking on country and doing a damn good job. And it has a duet with Johnny Cash, whom I see you like. My dad dislikes Dylan like you, but loves Nashville Skyline.

I will most definitely check it out. I should probably get off my ass and listen to Bob Dylan's stuff already. I got on this website to expand my musical horizons, and dammit I should do so haha. Also BayStateofTheArt, your profile picture is outstanding.
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baystateoftheart
Neil Young as a butternut squash

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jdenny2018 wrote:

I will most definitely check it out. I should probably get off my ass and listen to Bob Dylan's stuff already. I got on this website to expand my musical horizons, and dammit I should do so haha. Also BayStateofTheArt, your profile picture is outstanding.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.

Thanks! I liked a fruit sticker* so much I stuck it to my wall and took pictures of it Laughing

*Yes most people think a butternut squash is a vegetable, but it is a fruit! #ediblepedantry
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jdenny2018 wrote:

I don't get why 'Like a Rolling Stone' is considered such an amazing song. But, wahtever.

Just wait until you become the stone of which he wrote.

Didn't know there were so many not-Dylan fans on here Neutral

(between this and the 'highest unlistened' thread).

I dunno, give a few more of his albums a shot though (pre-1977... or like, his 1996-2004 phase). Can't see how you'd think he's a Woody Guthrie wannabe. That's... an odd comparison.