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PurpleHazel




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  • Posted: 06/13/2020 17:46
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Tha1ChiefRocka wrote:
How much Philip K Dick have you read?

He's one of my favorite authors. UBIK is often called his best work, and I would agree.

One of my favorites too. Perhaps not a curve-ball writer any more thanks to all the movie adaptations (Bladerunner, Minority Report, A Scanner Darkly, Total Recall etc.) and the other films that basically swipe his concepts (The Matrix, Vanilla Sky/Open Your Eyes, The Truman Show). But many of his best books like Ubik are about as curve-bally as you can get in terms of story. Other excellent novels of his include Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? (aka Bladerunner), Time Out of Joint, The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch and Martian Time-Slip (the first two are probably the best introductions -- a little more accessible).

Was just sorting my science fiction book collection, so it's been on my mind:

Ender's Game - Orson Scott Card - obvious choice, but one of the most addictive SF books I've read
The Demolished Man - Alfred Bester
The Puppet Masters - Robert Heinlein (made into a so-so Canadian movie with Donald Sutherland)
The Door into Summer - Heinlein
The Lathe of Heaven - Ursula Le Guin (The Left-Hand of Darkness is her most famous; this one's a terrific P.K. Dick homage that was made into a PBS TV movie!)
More Than Human - Theodore Sturgeon
Camp Concentration - Thomas M. Disch
The Second Trip - Robert Silverberg
The Mars Trilogy (Red Mars & Green Mars are much better than the third one) - Kim Stanley Robinson

Easier to make recs when I know which SF books someone likes already. The great thing about the Mars Trilogy is that often SF is divided into hard SF (scientifically accurate) and soft SF (often deals more with sociological and purely imaginative subjects; tends to be better-written and have better characterizations). Kim Stanley Robinson does a great job of combining both. The books depicting the future history of the colonization of Mars are scientifically sound, well-written, have good characters and focus on social and political changes as much or more than the technological ones. Very believable.
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Cheers for these lads, I read a lot but I've been outta sci-fi stuff for some time and it has fallen well off my radar, gonna be digging through these for some recs to get back into it!
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Patman360 wrote:
Anyone got some decent curve-ball sci-fi recs? Got a craving and looking for some when I finish my current books.

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Lovely, cheers for that!
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Patman360 wrote:
Lovely, cheers for that!

There's also a underrated pulpy space opera I used to read that is obscure, let me try to find it for you. IDK if I still have it or not. It'd be in my bookshelf.

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Wonderful stuff, cheers for that, gonna have to start digging around for these!
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  • Posted: 06/22/2020 23:11
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Heinlein's The Puppet Masters is pulpy too -- in the best possible way.
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Patman360 wrote:
Wonderful stuff, cheers for that, gonna have to start digging around for these!

No problem. Anytime, Pat.
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I've found myself to be mostly attracted to the classic instead of the modern book, largely because of reputation, freedom to read without payment, and the fact that so many modern novels are part of a series.

Throw in the new knowledge you gain from the past.
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Also traditional literature was often more technical, language-rich, and interesting. I don't think most of "bestsellers" in the new millenium era of literature are particularly good. Some exceptions but I've read a lot of mediocrity. But maybe a lot of that is my expectations for prose is higher as a would-be fiction writer that grew up with certain ideas of writing. Have not read a writer in the modern day I like even half as much as Dumas, Brontë, or Dostoevsky.
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