2022 BST Rd1: Somewhere Near Marseilles v Чайка

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Poll: Which Song?
Hikaru Utada- Somewhere Near Marseilles
73%
 73%  [11]
Valya Narezka - Чайка
26%
 26%  [4]
Total Votes : 15

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cestuneblague
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  • Posted: 02/09/2023 23:28
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Hikaru Utada- Somewhere Near Marseilles
Captain: Hayden




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Repping: New York City



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Valya Narezka - Чайка
Captain: Musicoed




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Repping: St Petersburg, Russia?
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Hayden




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  • Posted: 02/10/2023 02:56
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Taking a leap 22 years into her career, it's weird to think at the age of (only just) 40 that Hikaru Utada comes across at a veteran—
I'm not sure what happened— when, where or why— but the fact Floating Points, AG Cook and Skrillex all decided to point at her and say 'something else is here' may have just given her a whole new phase of her career. Her growth as an artist on this is an incredible step.

The album's closer— an 11-minute micro-house downtempo banger produced by Floating Points— has an undeniable coolness to it. It's an absolute vibe. Can be played in any club, anywhere, anytime— yet it has a melancholy of something long lost. What she's singing of is over. There's a couple points in the track where it almost feels like the beat is crying. It just overflows with this bittersweet/nostalgic/saudade, yet it's so minimal— she does it with almost no words at all. Yeah, it's an epic/danceable/groovy 12" cut, but there's something about the air around it that swallows me up. One of my favourites of the year.
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musicoed



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  • Posted: 02/10/2023 07:14
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Hayden, thanks for the introduction and example.

I will also try to explain my choice.
I can't say anything about the author of my bet.
This song is the only thing I liked about him.
Until 2022, I didn’t know anything about this project at all.

The social network has become the first place of publication in 2021.
Official publication - single 2022.
The second track of the single is a defaced version of the title song.

The song is very short and consists of three parts.
00:00 - 00:35. The first part is an introduction.
Carefree falsetto in indie pop style.
00:36 - 01:12. The second part is the climactic one with rapids and rifts.
The performance suddenly receives an influx of pathos and solemnity.
At this point, the second voice starts with the effect of chorus and echo.
Lyrics and vocals are simultaneously experiencing overload.
00:48. The moment of climax is the most beautiful part of the song.
The choir runs out of breath, the first voice picks up the song.
Falsetto repeats the same four words repeatedly with escalation.
01:13 - 01:39. The third part is the completion (combining the first two).
The second voice intercepts the words of the escalation.
The echo continues to repeat these words in the distance.
The guitar remains the last instrument.
The performance is in two voices almost a cappella.
Again the lyrics of the first part, everything sounds more tragic.

Чайка
В Атлантическом океане сардинка живёт и сияет
Я хотел бы быть ею, чтобы также сиять
Ты хотела быть белугой, но ты красная
Ты так завидуешь белугам, а мне кажется ты такая классная.

Твои глаза такие грустные, я знаю эти чувства
Я
Во мне
Чайка, во мне кричит чайка.

Seagull
In the Atlantic Ocean, the sardine lives and shines
I would like to be her, to also shine.
You wanted to be Beluga, but you are red
You are so jealous of the Belugas, but I think you are so cool.

Your eyes are so sad, I know these feelings
I am
Inside of me
Seagull, the Seagull screams in me.
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MadhattanJack
I mean, metal is okay, but...


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  • Posted: 02/10/2023 07:47
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musicoed wrote:
In the Atlantic Ocean, the sardine lives and shines
I would like to be her, to also shine.
You wanted to be Beluga, but you are red
You are so jealous of the Belugas, but I think you are so cool.

If I just had a nickel for every time someone has said these words to me...
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mickilennial
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  • Posted: 02/10/2023 08:22
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just because Hikaru was born in NYC does not mean she rep's it. She's been dynamite in Japan for over twenty years and one of the few artists to contend with the great pop singers there smh

anyway good match up but its Hikaru easily
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musicoed



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  • Posted: 02/10/2023 20:58
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MadhattanJack wrote:
musicoed wrote:
In the Atlantic Ocean, the sardine lives and shines
I would like to be her, to also shine.
You wanted to be Beluga, but you are red
You are so jealous of the Belugas, but I think you are so cool.

If I just had a nickel for every time someone has said these words to me...

I noticed that you pay attention to nuances.
The English language does not always convey the gender of a person.
In the song, a man addresses a woman.
The red color in Russia is not exactly the same as in other countries.
So for me your remark is not entirely correct.))

By the way, an interesting release by a Belgian artist came out today.
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theblueboy





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  • Posted: 02/12/2023 09:51
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Think Think Think

I’ve been struggling to get into much this tourney so far (it’s not you it’s me!) but I do like both of these. Marseilles has the cooler vibe but Yanka the sweeter tune. There’s nothing in it d'oh!
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musicoed



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  • Posted: 02/13/2023 03:16
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Gowi wrote:
… anyway good match up …

This is a symbolic and yet another random geopolitical clash.))
My further conclusions are based only on assumptions!!!))

The song needs mature hormonal experiences.
My suggested ranking of countries by level of mature hormonal experiences.
1 - Conditional Russia
2 - Conditional West
3 - Conditional Japan.
This conclusion is based on the supposed freedom of behavior of mature sexual partners.
Conditional Japan - freedom is limited by manifestations of patriarchy.
Conditional West - freedom is limited by the loss of reputation.
Conditional Russia - too much freedom, no restrictions.
musicoed wrote:
MadhattanJack wrote:
musicoed wrote:
In the Atlantic Ocean, the sardine lives and shines
I would like to be her, to also shine.
You wanted to be Beluga, but you are red
You are so jealous of the Belugas, but I think you are so cool.

If I just had a nickel for every time someone has said these words to me...

I noticed that you pay attention to nuances.
The English language does not always convey the gender of a person.
In the song, a man addresses a woman.
The red color in Russia is not exactly the same as in other countries.
So for me your remark is not entirely correct.))

I was troubled by my dubious remarks.
I guess I'm too conservative and in fact gender doesn't matter.
Another thing is important, which I did not pay attention to.

The progressiveness of the music is greatly appreciated.
For me, it has nothing to do with the number of improvisations or the duration.
Progressiveness exists when the tension in a song builds.
But there is super progressiveness, when it is not the song that grows, but the attitude towards it.

The song Seagull is very short, but it is progressive even musically.
The quality of the rhyme also grows, the first is very banal, the second is too complicated.

However, for me the song is super progressive in my attitude towards it.
I understood the text from the very beginning, but I took it lightly.
I'm completely obsessed with music, everything else is in the fog.

The fact is that Beluga in Russian sounds like Belaya (White).
I took it as the usual juxtaposition of colors.
But very quickly the word Red brought me to a political context.
As it turned out, Beluga is one of the largest and most predatory fish in the world.
Russia does not have direct access to the Atlantic Ocean.
The cry of a seagull is perceived very disturbingly.

But the remark about the person's gender changed everything.
I suddenly discovered a possible connection with Chekhov's Seagull.
Maybe I even studied this work in school.
But I had to brush up on the reason for the name.
A work about unrequited love, where a seagull is a senseless victim.

Now everything plays with a few different colors.
The girl is unhappy, she wants to become the "Mistress of the Sea" according to Pushkin
The hero knows the sad end of this tale and sympathizes with it.
But it is not clear why he calls his beloved Red.

It turns out that the Russian word Veter (Wind) is used in English, like the Weather.
An even more amazing story with the English word Woman.
This word can be translated into Russian as the property of me (U menya).
Do the British know what the most common Russian swear word is.
This scolding is surprisingly similar to the sound of the word Blood.

The hero considers the girl a whore and yet declares his love.
This is mature hormonal experiences.))
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MadhattanJack
I mean, metal is okay, but...


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  • Posted: 02/13/2023 07:23
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I don't do hormones... d'oh!

I think the problem here is that whenever someone says "you wanted to be Beluga," all of us here in North America and Western Europe (I don't know about Japan) automatically assume the person is referring to the lead singer of one-hit wonder art-punk band Beluga and the Human Ashtrays. Practically everyone wanted to "be like Beluga" back when this band still existed, but as it happens, their smash-hit 1979 single "Mars Needs Women" was banned from what was then the Soviet Union due to the Communist Party thinking it was "not all that great, really." After the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, there was a short-lived movement to lift the ban — which ultimately failed to gain traction when fans realized that all 100 copies of the single that were pressed had been sold, due to their having been purchased by Beluga himself during a fit of self-loathing.


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Repo
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  • Posted: 02/14/2023 03:31
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OMG! My vote is with this wonderful, somewhat surreal exchange! <I think someone might have spiked my beer! Drunk >

Love both tracks!
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