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RFNAPLES
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- Posted: 02/05/2010 21:32
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Here are a few examples of cases where a best-selling album lost in the GRAMMY Awards Album of the Year vote:
Backstreet Boys-Millennium-1999 lost to Steely Dan-Two Against Nature
Madonna-Ray of Light-1998 and Shania Twain-Come On Over-1997 lost to Lauryn Hill-The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
Pink Floyd-The Wall-1979 lost to Christopher Cross-Christopher Cross
The Beatles-Abbey Road-1969 lost to Blood, Sweat & Tears-Blood, Sweat & Tears
Usher-Confessions-2004 lost to Ray Charles & Various Artists-Genius Loves Company
Whitney Houston-Whitney Houston-1985 lost to Phil Collins-No Jacket Required
The fact is you and I have the right to disagree with each other and various critics, charts and consumers. The GRAMMY Awards are votes and we often don’t agree with the outcomes especially when our favorites loose. Look at Obama! _________________ Top 100 Greatest Music Albums by RFNAPLES
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RFNAPLES
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- Posted: 02/05/2010 23:03
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Here are those same best-selling albums listed in order of Best Ever Albums Overall Rank:
3-Pink Floyd-The Dark Side of the Moon-1973
4-The Beatles-Abbey Road-1969
5-*The Beatles-Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band-1967
7-Nirvana-Nevermind-1991
9-Led Zeppelin-Led Zeppelin IV-1971
16-*U2-The Joshua Tree-1987
25-Pink Floyd-The Wall-1979
30-Oasis-(What’s the Story) Morning Glory?-1995
36-Guns N’ Roses-Appetite for Destruction-1987
48-*Fleetwood Mac-Rumours-1977
49-AC/DC-Back in Black-1980
53-*Michael Jackson-Thriller-1982
74-Prince & the Revolution-Purple Rain-1984
80-Bob Marley & The Wailers-Legend: The Best of Bob Marley & The Wailers-1984
81-Metallica-Metallica-1991
129-*Simon & Garfunkel-Bridge over Troubled Water-1970
188-Bruce Springsteen-Born in the U.S.A.-1984
199-Michael Jackson-Off the Wall-1979
209-Meat Loaf-Bat out of Hell-1977
232-Dire Straits-Brothers in Arms-1985
234-*Alanis Morissette-Jagged Little Pill-1995
256-Blondie-Parallel Lines-1978
277-*Carole King-Tapestry-1971
288-Linkin Park-Hybrid Theory-2000
390-*Bee Gees/Various artists-Saturday Night Fever-1977
407-Madonna-Ray of Light-1998
418-Michael Jackson-Bad-1987
423-The Beatles-1-2000
445-Def Leppard-Hysteria-1987
577-Bon Jovi-Slippery When Wet-1986
670-Hootie & the Blowfish-Cracked Rear View-1994
779-Shania Twain-Come On Over-1997
804-Michael Jackson-Dangerous-1991
834-Eagles-Their Greatest Hits (1971–1975)-1976
837-Madonna-The Immaculate Collection-1990
856-*Norah Jones-Come Away With Me-2002
1,059-Michael Jackson-HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I-1995
1,089-Queen-Greatest Hits-1981
1,123-ABBA-ABBA Gold: Greatest Hits-1992
1,177-*Santana-Supernatural-1999
1,244-George Michael-Faith-1987
1,936-Britney Spears-...Baby One More Time-1999
2,042-Backstreet Boys-Millennium-1999
2,068-Whitney Houston-Whitney Houston-1985
2,366-Mariah Carey-Daydream-1995
2,431-Madonna-True Blue-1986
2,717-Tina Turner-Private Dancer-1984
2,737-Spice Girls-Spice-1996
3,210-Various artists-Grease-1978
3,909-Billy Ray Cyrus-Some Gave All-1992
4,001-Dido-No Angel-1999
4,112-Spice Girls-Spiceworld-1997
4,405-Usher-Confessions-2004
4,695-*Lionel Richie-Can’t Slow Down-1983
4,765-Janet Jackson-janet.-1993
4,923-Madonna-Like A Virgin-1984
5,240-*Céline Dion-Falling into You-1996
5,542-Andrew Lloyd Webber-The Phantom of the Opera-1986
5,611-Mariah Carey-Music Box-1993
5,742-Iron Butterfly-In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida-1968
5,742-Various artists-Dirty Dancing-1987
NA-Ace of Base-Happy Nation/The Sign-1994
NA-Backstreet Boys-Backstreet Boys-1997
NA-Backstreet Boys-Black & Blue-2000
NA-Bee Gees-Spirits Having Flown-1979
NA-Celine Dion-Let’s Talk About Love-1997
NA-Cher-Believe-1999
NA-James Horner-Titanic-1997
NA-*Whitney Houston/Various artists-The Bodyguard-1992
Only the last 8 don't appear in among the Best Ever Albums. Not too bad for a dumb buying public.
N.B. Albummaster Overall Rank 5742 appears twice! _________________ Top 100 Greatest Music Albums by RFNAPLES
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- Posted: 02/05/2010 23:07
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RFNAPLES wrote: | The GRAMMY Awards are votes and we often don’t agree with the outcomes especially when our favorites lose. Look at Obama! |
The travesty is the weakness of the Album of the Year nominees list. I wouldn't vote for any of them.
Beyoncé – I Am…Sasha Fierce
Black Eyed Peas – The E.N.D.
Lady Gaga – The Fame
Dave Matthews Band – Big Whiskey and the GrooGrux King
Taylor Swift – Fearless
Looking at Obama: I think that Obama would have voted for Beyoncé or Dave Matthews
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- Posted: 02/05/2010 23:19
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RFNAPLES wrote: | Not too bad for a dumb buying public. ! |
You spinmeister you. Only 29 of them show up in the Best Ever Albums Top 500. Pretty shabby numbers in my book.
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RFNAPLES wrote: | The nominees were also voted in from the submissions! |
Therein lies the problem. Nominees should be selected by a nonpartisan qualified committee.
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Where do you find that non-partisan robotic committee? Bet we would still disagree unless all those "qualified" people were on our list. The voters are all professional members of the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences of the United States with credentials. It is their award and judged by the number of artists present and the number of people watching, I would say it is a pretty big thing. _________________ Top 100 Greatest Music Albums by RFNAPLES
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- Posted: 02/05/2010 23:48
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RFNAPLES wrote: | Where do you find that non-partisan robotic committee? Bet we would still disagree unless all those "qualified" people were on our list. The voters are all professional members of the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences of the United States with credentials. It is their award and judged by the number of artists present and the number of people watching, I would say it is a pretty big thing. |
The Tonys manage to do it successfully. "The awards are jointly administered by the American Theater Wing and the League of American Theaters and Producers. A special nominating committee made up of 27 to 30 members nominates four candidates for each category."
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