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| Poll: Winner is...? |
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| Frank Zappa |
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42% |
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| Sun Ra |
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57% |
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| Total Votes : 26 |
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nutso42
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- #1
- Posted: 01/05/2014 15:52
- Post subject: BSAT Round #1: CLOSED - Sun Ra def. Frank Zappa
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BSAT
Round 1
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Hot Rats by Frank Zappa
Frank Zappa (Captain: Jasonconfused)
Atlantis by Sun Ra
Sun Ra (Captain: Kool Keith Sweat)
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Defago
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- #2
- Posted: 01/05/2014 17:42
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Sun Ra is completely qualified to win this whole tournament.
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Guest
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- #3
- Posted: 01/05/2014 17:55
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I haven't listen to much of either artist. I don't think I've been able to get into Zappa. I think I've enjoyed both albums I've heard from Sun Ra (Atlantis and Space Is The Place). So, its Sun Ra for me in this one.
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Norman Bates
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- #4
- Posted: 01/05/2014 18:35
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Sun Ra.
Zappa is totally hit or miss for me, with very high highs, and very low lows. Sun Ra is always at least good.
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meccalecca
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- #5
- Posted: 01/05/2014 18:46
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Gonna give this one to Sun Ra simply because Zappa's best work is with Mothers of Invention. and Sun Ra deserves to remain in the tourney and gain new followers
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Kool Keith Sweat
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- #6
- Posted: 01/05/2014 18:55
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Sun Ra is one of the most prolific musicians ever and his discography literally touches every genre of jazz. He is arguably the icon of afrofuturism which continues today in musicians like Flying Lotus, Shabazz Palaces, and many others; his influence even trickled down to acts like MC5 and, yes, Frank Zappa. He is also arguably the free-est of the free jazz musicians, both in terms of music and what free jazz meant in terms of black identity (which he totally rejected in claiming he was an alien). Fuck the ghetto, think about space
If you need some guide through Sun Ra's ridiculously large discography, I'd check out these (particularly the ones in bold): Jazz in Silohuette; The Futuristic Sounds of Sun Ra; Other Planes of There; The Magic City; The Heliocentric Worlds of Sun Ra, v. 2; Atlantis; and Lanquidity.
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Dingerbell
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- #7
- Posted: 01/05/2014 18:56
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My vote goes to Sun Ra, having never really liked Frank Zappa.
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Norman Bates
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- #8
- Posted: 01/05/2014 19:16
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| Kool Keith Sweat wrote: | | He is also arguably the free-est of the free jazz musicians, both in terms of music |
Well, as much as I like Sun Ra's music, I'd very much like to read a backup of that opinion. Interesting anyway.
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Norman Bates
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- #9
- Posted: 01/05/2014 19:17
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| Kool Keith Sweat wrote: |
If you need some guide through Sun Ra's ridiculously large discography, I'd check out these (particularly the ones in bold): Jazz in Silohuette; The Futuristic Sounds of Sun Ra; Other Planes of There; The Magic City; The Heliocentric Worlds of Sun Ra, v. 2; Atlantis; and Lanquidity. |
I knew it: Cosmic Tones for Mental Therapy needs more love.
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Kool Keith Sweat
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- #10
- Posted: 01/05/2014 19:26
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| Norman Bates wrote: | | Well, as much as I like Sun Ra's music, I'd very much like to read a backup of that opinion. Interesting anyway. |
I suppose there's not much of one but, outside of something like Free Jazz or Ascension, I've personally never heard much else with less traditional structure outside of some of Sun Ra's 60s stuff (in fact, unlike most free jazz musicians in the 60s (Cecil Taylor, John Coltrane, Ornette Coleman, Albert Ayler, etc.), Sun Ra did not seem concerned with structure - or rather deconstructing a musical line - at all but rather atmosphere). And, to my knowledge, he was more consistently dependent on pure improvisation than other jazz contemporaries. Again, this is written with his 60s work primarily in mind
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