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Poll: Could Hillary Rodham Clinton make a good President of the United States of America?
Yes!
39%
 39%  [19]
No!
60%
 60%  [29]
Total Votes : 48

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2. Hillary has views on a majority of issues that seem considerate, considered and frankly sane. More than can be said about the Republicans.


Why I don't support Hillary: Her stated stance on many (not all) positions I agree with, but for me it comes down to me simply not trusting her. She can say all the right words, but she's already been bought off. She's not beholden to the voters, or even her rhetoric.
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Jasonconfused wrote:
She can say all the right words, but she's already been bought off.


Dude, the frontrunners in every election take money from the banks, if that's what you mean. They're generally equal doners to both party's front-runners (check out Obama's doner list or McCain's - it doesn't really MEAN anything). Candidates take donations.
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Dude, the frontrunners in every election take money from the banks, if that's what you mean. They're generally equal doners to both party's front-runners (check out Obama's doner list or McCain's - it doesn't really MEAN anything). Candidates take donations.


It means plenty. It's exactly why Citizen's United is such a travesty. Whether or not that campaign financing produces leverage for the donor over the candidates in unquestionable. It's why we have to keep a close eye on where that money is coming from.
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Unaffordably high income tax (socialism)
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Unaffordably high income tax (socialism)


Income tax is never unaffordable, unless it's over 100%. It's a percentage from what you make, and therefore impossible for you not to be able to afford.

Sanders is attempting to pull a Robin Hood and take a chunk of the wealth from the super rich and spread it around to the rest of us.
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Unaffordably high income tax (socialism)


I feel like this argument gets made way too often when we have so many countries in Scandinavia that prove that this isn't a problem
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WindowAbove wrote:
Unaffordably high income tax (socialism)


these things are not directly related doo doo da doo
actual socialism is the ownership of the means of production by the proletariat la la la loooo
income taxes are at historic lows for industrial capitalism zippidy doo
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It means plenty. It's exactly why Citizen's United is such a travesty. Whether or not that campaign financing produces leverage for the donor over the candidates in unquestionable. It's why we have to keep a close eye on where that money is coming from.


Right, but I'm saying that ALL the major candidates are accepting money from the same sources, so calling Clinton out for it doesn't make a lot of sense.
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ALL the major candidates are accepting money from the same sources


Not Sanders
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