The vast majority of my context is sonic. I don't really know how much I'd gain from studying theory or history - I certainly enjoy a lot of the avant garde without it.
Prior listening is context. The dialogue of avant-garde music is often within stylistic changes or breaking from traditional templates. Listening experience allows you to build a certain awareness of the traditional structure of musical styles, which makes it all the more incredible when you hear something that breaks away from all known ideas of structure, tone, rhythm, etc. _________________ http://jonnyleather.com
Prior listening is context. The dialogue of avant-garde music is often within stylistic changes or breaking from traditional templates. Listening experience allows you to build a certain awareness of the traditional structure of musical styles, which makes it all the more incredible when you hear something that breaks away from all known ideas of structure, tone, rhythm, etc.
I agree, I just think that all music, even pop, can benefit from context. What distinguishes pop, I think, is that most people already have that context, or at least it's much more easily obtained.
I agree, I just think that all music, even pop, can benefit from context. What distinguishes pop, I think, is that most people already have that context, or at least it's much more easily obtained.
Yeah exactly. And as musical vocabulary expands, the concept of what is actually unique and avant-garde evolves. If Nickelback was the first rock band I ever hear in my life, they'd likely seem incredibly original until provided the context of all of the similar rock bands that preceded them for decades. _________________ http://jonnyleather.com
Btw, welcome! You are of course entitled to your own opinion even if it's wrong! _________________ "The Beatles, the greatest band known to mankind." - Bismah Mughal
As an English major I read and subscribe to a lot of literary criticism along the lines of Barthes and Sartre, and struggle to escape the line of thought that says the more I have to bend over backwards in service of the author (or musician, painter, sculptor) and his intentions, the more my position as reader becomes worthless and I'm just being invited to join in a circlejerk.
This can apply equally to impenetrable self-referential avant-garde, and bubble-gum pop that aggressively hammers you over the head with is emotional and thematic intent.
As an English major I read and subscribe to a lot of literary criticism along the lines of Barthes and Sartre, and struggle to escape the line of thought that says the more I have to bend over backwards in service of the author (or musician, painter, sculptor) and his intentions, the more my position as reader becomes worthless and I'm just being invited to join in a circlejerk.
This can apply equally to impenetrable self-referential avant-garde, and bubble-gum pop that aggressively hammers you over the head with is emotional and thematic intent.
boyd94 used this figure of speech, but the Plebs did not understand what he was telling them.
Therefore boyd94 said again, “As an English major I read and subscribe to a lot of literary criticism along the lines of Barthes and Sartre,
and struggle to escape the line of thought that says the more I have to bend over backwards
in service of the author (or musician, painter, sculptor) and his intentions,
the more my position as reader becomes worthless and I'm just being invited to join in a circlejerk.
This can apply equally to impenetrable self-referential avant-garde,
and bubble-gum pop that aggressively hammers you over the head with is emotional and thematic intent.
“I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me—
just as the Sartre knows me and I know the Sartre—and I lay down my life for the sheep.
I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.
The reason my Sartre loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again.
No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Sartre.” _________________ 2021 in full effect. Come drop me some recs. Y'all know what I like.
so instead of bending over backwards, if you're following Sartre's literary criticism, you just insist all the authors do the bending so you can make up what their worldview is? i've gotta say, pedantic literary psychoanalysis is the most disgusting cancer to ever develop in the humanities, and i can't wait for the day it fades from existence. it's the most tedious, painful, and useless mode of criticism that's ever existed.
boyd94 used this figure of speech, but the Plebs did not understand what he was telling them.
Therefore boyd94 said again, “As an English major I read and subscribe to a lot of literary criticism along the lines of Barthes and Sartre,
and struggle to escape the line of thought that says the more I have to bend over backwards
in service of the author (or musician, painter, sculptor) and his intentions,
the more my position as reader becomes worthless and I'm just being invited to join in a circlejerk.
This can apply equally to impenetrable self-referential avant-garde,
and bubble-gum pop that aggressively hammers you over the head with is emotional and thematic intent.
“I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me—
just as the Sartre knows me and I know the Sartre—and I lay down my life for the sheep.
I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.
The reason my Sartre loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again.
No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Sartre.”
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2/3 Danish bands. Really? How could you, especially the latter one? For those with a better definition of musical trash, listen to this one:
