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RFNAPLES wrote:


Is this suggesting that reasonable people are naturally born, rather than taught or raised to be so?
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Are people born with reason?
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RFNAPLES wrote:
Are people born with reason?


That's a good question, but whether or not people are born with it, an individuals environment will determine whether or not they acquire (or keep it, depending on whether or not you think we are born with it).
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Should group rights prevail at the expense of individual rights?


Who's giving up any rights? Think

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What Naples is trying to say is that we shouldn't infringe on the rights of individuals for the rights of groups. For example, we shouldn't subscribe to ideas such as affirmative action because they give special priority to groups as opposed to that of the actual skill of an individual themselves and could even go so far as to cost skilled individuals their job in exchange for easier occupation for the group. This itself is an interesting debate we can have in another thread.

However, gay marriage isn't some sort of civil rights "special treatment" service - no one is giving up any rights to allow gays to get married.
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Damn Jackwc, your cognitive skills are beginning to impress me.
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L Lawliet wrote:
New Zealand passed marriage equality laws last week I think? Just something on topic.


Speaking of which (although many of you have probably seen it):


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lethalnezzle wrote:
Speaking of which (although many of you have probably seen it):


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Pretty funny for a parliamentary speech.
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RFNAPLES wrote:
Damn Jackwc, your cognitive skills are beginning to impress me.


You still need to answer though - exactly who is giving up their rights to allow gay marriage?
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