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HigherThanTheSun
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- Posted: 06/30/2012 21:22
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In the news today:
New research from the Institute of Education has revealed that there is a yawning gap in attainment between even the ablest children in the highest and lowest socio-economic groups.
It shows that the reading skills of the highest-performing English and Scottish 15-year-olds from disadvantaged families are, on average, more than two years behind those of the most able pupils from privileged backgrounds. The gap in England is 2.5 years and in Scotland 2.75 years.
It is the association between family background and high achievement that seems to be stronger in England and Scotland than in most other developed countries. "A gap of two-and-a-half years even between high-performing pupils is exceptional," he says. "The only countries that had a bigger gap than England – apart from Scotland – were the United States and New Zealand."
Until you address issues like this you can't assume it's people's fault for being poor.
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RFNAPLES
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HigherThanTheSun
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- Posted: 07/01/2012 02:04
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Yeah I'm with you Naples, sort of. The last thing you want is a welfare system which actually encourages dependancy, it's a safety net not something you should rely on for life unless you have to.
Only I tend to think the problem is greater than the individuals who find themsleves claiming welfare long term. Like I said, it's a lot harder to make something of yourself if you're from a poor background in either the UK or US which are both very unequal societies. It's too easy for poor kids to find themselves in the same situation as their parents yet how many middle class kids end up being dependant on welfare?
Without a serious assault on the things which stack the odds so heavily against poor kids I think it's completely out of line to demonise the poor in the way some people do. It tends to be the conservative minded people who condemn the poor but would simultaneously pull the rug from under their feet with cuts to public services and steadfastly support the status quo which keeps the poor poor and the rich rich, it reeks of hypocrisy.
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| RFNAPLES wrote: | | Would it be fair to require people to maintain a proper BMI; to get the proper nutrition, hydration, excercise, rest and education, and; to not smoke in order to get tax favored treatment/subsidies? |
I, like many Americans, have mixed feelings about it. But as a side note I never liked the BMI on account that all self respecting body-builders would be considered obese.
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| HigherThanTheSun wrote: | In the news today:
New research from the Institute of Education has revealed that there is a yawning gap in attainment between even the ablest children in the highest and lowest socio-economic groups.
It shows that the reading skills of the highest-performing English and Scottish 15-year-olds from disadvantaged families are, on average, more than two years behind those of the most able pupils from privileged backgrounds. The gap in England is 2.5 years and in Scotland 2.75 years.
It is the association between family background and high achievement that seems to be stronger in England and Scotland than in most other developed countries. "A gap of two-and-a-half years even between high-performing pupils is exceptional," he says. "The only countries that had a bigger gap than England – apart from Scotland – were the United States and New Zealand."
Until you address issues like this you can't assume it's people's fault for being poor. |
I don't know about you, but I've been for the voucher system ever since my Marxist/Behaviorist Sociology Professor made us watch the sixty minutes documentary on the subject.
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