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- Posted: 09/12/2012 21:18
- Post subject: 2012 Minor Parties
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Just interested on people's views on some of the US's minor parties, like Libertarian and Green.
There's obviously no chance they'll win, but I'm surprised they don't garner more support from more liberal voters who have been let down by Obama's term.
I just started my politics course and I have to look into two-party systems, so just a little more insight into the US politics world would be interesting 
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junodog4
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- Posted: 09/12/2012 21:21
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The two party system has ruined US politics. It's made it so much more adversarial than it needs to be. Everything becomes a either/or proposition, and there's little compromise. I'd love to see the Greens, Libertarians, and any other party chip away at the traditional support for the Democrats and Republicans.
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RFNAPLES
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- Posted: 09/12/2012 21:27
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Democrats don't generally support Libertarians because they are usually right of the Republicans.
Democrats don't generally support Greens because they are usually left of the Democrats.
Independents usually are middle of the road and generally don't know who to support.
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- Posted: 09/12/2012 21:36
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| RFNAPLES wrote: | Democrats don't generally support Liberterans because they are usually right of the Republicans.
Democrats don't generally support Greens because they are usually left of the Democrats.
Independents usually are middle of the road and generally don't know who to support.
Following losers is for losers. |
What about the Constitution party? Are Republicans only favored because of their mass popularity?
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RFNAPLES
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HigherThanTheSun
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- Posted: 09/13/2012 00:57
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| RFNAPLES wrote: | Democrats don't generally support Libertarians because they are usually right of the Republicans.
Democrats don't generally support Greens because they are usually left of the Democrats.
Independents usually are middle of the road and generally don't know who to support.
Following losers is for losers. |
Following? It's the electorate who should be leading the politicians not the other way round.
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- Posted: 09/13/2012 01:29
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I feel we're nearing a point where people will see there really isn't a huge difference anymore between the two major parties in terms of policy and who they take their marching orders from. Unfortunately, money remains the biggest problem in American politics. In the current system, the only way there will ever be a viable third party is if every state employs a run-off voting system. Also, we have to fix the primaries so that people aren't required to vote along party lines.
On a side note and somewhat contradictory one, I'm amazed that the US still has independent voters. The US system has been pretty much like Britain for years. Most people vote along party lines because that's what makes the most sense, unless you just fundamentally don't understand the parties' platforms... or I suppose social issues divide people. 
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- Posted: 09/13/2012 06:07
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i just took some political orientation quiz for the lolz and apparently i agree w/ the green party's candidate 96% of the time
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HigherThanTheSun
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- Posted: 09/13/2012 14:33
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| Mr. Shankly wrote: | | On a side note and somewhat contradictory one, I'm amazed that the US still has independent voters. The US system has been pretty much like Britain for years. Most people vote along party lines because that's what makes the most sense, unless you just fundamentally don't understand the parties' platforms... or I suppose social issues divide people. |
Well yeah, the system we have practically forces people to vote for a major party otherwise their vote is just a waste. It's basically a massive stitch up but whichever party is in power will be a party which has benefitted from the system so they're never going to change it, be like turkeys voting for christmas.
Saying that, apparently the 2010 election saw the Cons and Labour collectively get their lowest share of the vote in nearly 100 years. I'm guessing this was mainly because of the gains the SNP made in Scotland but the Liberals did do quite well along with the Greens making gains.
It would be fantastic if people voted for who they genuinely wanted to vote for rather than voting tactically but until we get proportional representation (never) it won't happen.
Sorry for going off topic but hey.
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RFNAPLES
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- Posted: 09/13/2012 14:52
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| HigherThanTheSun wrote: | | Following? It's the electorate who should be leading the politicians not the other way round. |
They do follow the electorate. Why do you think politicians pay attention to the polls? But the real question perhaps should be why should the politicians follow an uninformed electorate (other than to get elected)?
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