You Win, I Lose (track)
by Supertramp
Year: 1997
From the album Some Things Never Change (track #2)


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You Win, I Lose appears on the following album(s) by Supertramp:
- Some Things Never Change (track #2) (this album) (1997)
- Retrospectacle (track #30) (compilation) (2005)
- Live, 1997 (track #1) (2006)
- It Was The Best Of Times (track #2) (1999)
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| Rating | Date updated | Member | Track ratings | Avg. track rating |
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75/100 | 09/08/2025 01:29 | Moondance | ![]() | 75/100 |
100/100 | 03/25/2024 01:15 | phmusic | ![]() | 100/100 |
65/100 | 02/17/2023 07:10 | RVRO | ![]() | 82/100 |
75/100 | 02/06/2023 11:21 | bloosy | ![]() | 82/100 |
50/100 | 07/22/2022 14:00 | ![]() | 73/100 |
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This track has a Bayesian average rating of 75.5/100, a mean average of 75.0/100, and a trimmed mean (excluding outliers) of 75.0/100. The standard deviation for this track is 12.8.
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