Well I'm basically asking the question Is Sufjan a legend, with the likes of a Dylan? Not yet in my opinion, but with the way things are going he could be. But the idea of this thread is Future Classics, so I am saying a lot of his stuff will be classic.
This is a really weird day for me with how much I'm agreeing with you. 😜 I definitely think it would be pretty overstated to put someone with a catalog of five albums (I hope I'm counting right?), only one of which is even consistently talked about outside of its window of initial release, with Dylan. That's not to say I don't understand arguments that he has the same amount of quality as Dylan has, though I personally disagree. It's just to say that very, very few artists have the apparent stature of Bob Dylan, who's probably one of the ten or so most instantly recognizable artists of the last century. On the topic of canonization on that scale, I think Kanye is the only person with enough "underground" credentials and mainstream runaway success to be in the running at this moment.
This is a really weird day for me with how much I'm agreeing with you. :P
That fucking Nevermind thread wasn't good for my credibility apparently 🤔😎 _________________ Attention all planets of the solar federation: We have assumed control.
That fucking Nevermind thread wasn't good for my credibility apparently 🤔 8)
It was a joke in good fun; don't read too far into it. 😄
just sacrifice all physical copies of Nevermind you might have sitting around the house on an altar to Gibby Haynes, Bob Mould, and Frank Black to atone for your sins in that thread, and we'll be square
It was a joke in good fun; don't read too far into it. 😄
just sacrifice all physical copies of Nevermind you might have sitting around the house on an altar to Gibby Haynes, Bob Mould, and Frank Black to atone for your sins in that thread, and we'll be square
Haha I'm not reading too far into it. Unfortunately I just sold my extra Nevermind copy. Can't part with all of them 🤐 Even if it would benefit Bob Mould _________________ Attention all planets of the solar federation: We have assumed control.
I'm tempted to say that albums which become somewhat synonymous with a/their particular genre niche (rightly or wrongly) are likely to be regarded as classics, so this lot stand a chance (if some of them aren't already considered classics - particularly the first two):
catalog of five albums (I hope I'm counting right?)
It's actually 7 or 8 if you count BQE, and I guess 9 if you count The Avalanche, but only 5 are really heralded as potential classics. Of contemporary songwriters, I think Sufjan will ultimately stand the test of time. His work if ambitious enough, varied, and most importantly, his music isn't the type that gets dated by changing production techniques since it most dependent on his lyrics and song structure.
But will any of Sufjan's songs reach "Living on a Prayer" status? Not a chance. I'm really not sure what modern rock song really has the potential mainstream life span of "Don't Stop Believing." But I also don't listen to mainstream rock. _________________ http://jonnyleather.com
I feel really weird that I didn't know he released albums before Michigan until just now.
It happens. I think we've gotten used to artists breaking out on their 1st or 2nd record, so it's just assumed.
This seems to happen the most with singer/songwriters. They slave away for years before the world takes notice. They also have more sustainability through years of failure or not being noticed than a band does. _________________ http://jonnyleather.com
But will any of Sufjan's songs reach "Living on a Prayer" status? Not a chance. I'm really not sure what modern rock song really has the potential mainstream life span of "Don't Stop Believing." But I also don't listen to mainstream rock.
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