Point of Discussion: Purism vs. Tokenism

Goto page Previous  12345678910
View previous topic :: View next topic
  • Quote
Perhaps a purism that disputes your right to adopt a label is less offensive than one that disputes your right to make music of your choosing. But then an artist seldom chooses their own labels, so where's the beef?
  • Quote
You know I always thought Satie was somebody's puppet account, but his meta-am-i-sarcastic-or-am-ironically-anti-sarcastic schtick basically felt like a see-through mask that actually revelead far more about the member underneath than I think was intended.


I donno, to be quite honest I see both Purism vs Tokenism in music often (though not all the time) as a form of insecurity, and for some reason I find tokenism more forgiving. I think if perhaps sometimes one may personally overrate a certain "token" favorite from a particular genre to make their overall taste seem a bit more expansive, I think that's not really hurting anything and if it actually leads them to look into a particular style of music they hitherto haven't heard that much than I think it actually accomplishes something worthwhile. Now Purism I just find kind of irksome, mainly cuz it both kills discussion and in many ways the creative genius and is often perpretated by those who claim to want to accomplish the exact opposite. BUt also cause it can breed that kind of Superiority Complex, the sort of know-it-all Expert On All Things who deems not only what music is worthy to be considered worthwhile towards a particular realm of music but also what personal music tastes are "good" or "bad", "authentic" or "brainwashed by the Pitchfork masses"- despite the fact that both music taste and what makes a particular work of art worthwhile is a completely abstract, subjective concept. When I see people picking on people's taste or decided whether a work is authentic or not, I just find that a form of bullying that's masking a certain insecurity about how they evaulate their own taste and the fruitless quest to find what is truly the "best" music out there (when it should be just about discussing and savoring what our personal favorites are). I donno this kind of goes beyond simple tokenism v purism so whatever 7.5 generally favorable reviews.
  • Quote
Satie wrote:
going down the top of the 2010s chart here, the following are hot garbage indie folk and hot garbage indie folk-adjacent:

Arcade Fire
The National
Tame Impala
Bon Iver
Vampire Weekend
Fleet Foxes (FJM is somehow even worse, creating a unique nadir of music that deserves documentation as the absolute lowest stratigraphic threshold of artistic creation)
Sun Kil Moon
The Black Keys
Sufjan Stevens
Arctic Monkeys
The War on Drugs
The Tallest Man on Earth
Jack White

and that's not even to mention the disturbing trends of non-experimental experimental schlock, retro electropop, and plodding hip hop with no energy or sound design that round out the majority of the Top 50 here.


I dislike a good number of those bands and yet do really enjoy a couple, HOW CAN I BE EVALUATED AND VALIDATED AS A SO-CALLED MUSIC FAN!!!

New topic  Closed
Topic Posters
All times are GMT
Goto page Previous  12345678910
Page 10 of 10


 

Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Similar Topics
Topic Author Forum
Point of Discussion: The Development ... RockyRaccoon Music
Point of Discussion: The Ethics of Do... RockyRaccoon Music
Point of Discussion: Genres RockyRaccoon Music
Point of Discussion: Album Staying Power RockyRaccoon Music
Film Point of Discussion: Topics cestuneblague Movies & TV

 
Back to Top
Best Ever Albums
Install BEA for an app-like experience.