ADP No.3 - Hot Buttered Soul by Isaac Hayes - Music

Graeme2

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Graeme2 wrote:

Great post. Walk on by is easily the best version for me and one of the great covers. I have a single edit version of it on a comp and it's not near as good. Think I might prefer To Be Continued slightly over this though.

Actually the stranglers version of walk on by is just as good, forgot about that one.

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Graeme2 wrote:

Actually the stranglers version of walk on by is just as good, forgot about that one.

I'm glad someone brought that up, as I'm almost inclined to agree with you. Until I heard Isaac's version I would have certainly said that, although Dionne's version is ace. Could even say the small snippet in the Carpenters' "Bacharach/David Medley" is worthy of mention too. Interesting to see how many times it's been covered - I (thankfully) can't recall lazy-eyed, patch-wearing cod 90s soulstress Gabrielle ever performing it, although she supposedly did.
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Gotta get on that Stranglers cover....

I'll post in more detail at sometime this week, but this is a fantastic album. Great write-up and great choice Jimmy.
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@Jimmy - totally agreeing with you that it started a new direction in the genre.

I suppose I was just offering a "New Historicism" view on it - meaning a web of understanding instead of linear. I think all ideas aforementioned are completely possible, but the varying degree of how much of an influence, etc. probably is really difficult to define for sure.

Fantastic post again and really liked your questions. It really hit home this ADP thing... meaning I have kind of less interest in the album itself (HEATHENS!!!! ahaha), but thanks to your questions, the discussion is very intriguing nonetheless. I mean for example if this album came up as album of the day, I'd be less inclined to comment and learn more from the community. Now I know way more about this album and probably will appreciate it way more the next listen.

Much appreciated.

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sethmadsen wrote:

Fantastic post again and really liked your questions. It really hit home this ADP thing... meaning I have kind of less interest in the album itself (HEATHENS!!!! ahaha), but thanks to your questions, the discussion is very intriguing nonetheless. I mean for example if this album came up as album of the day, I'd be less inclined to comment and learn more from the community. Now I know way more about this album and probably will appreciate it way more the next listen.

I find this a tad bizarre, because surely historical background, etc. shouldn't count one iota as to one's take on the music in the grooves. I've always appreciated music on a purely emotional level, and as I've said before if it makes me dance or sing loud or pick up a tennis racket and play air guitar or cry buckets or think deeply about the world around me or gives me the horn or lets me float away on a sea of bliss then that's infinitely more important to me than cultural/historical significance, technical proficiency, lyrical content, etc. Not saying you're wrong when you say that you'll appreciate the album on next listen because you know more about it - that's your prerogative - but knowing the inside leg measurement of the drummer or if the album was recorded in a dingy studio where damp was setting in and the coffee machine was bust counts for nowt when you stick the record on at a party and everyone just wants to get down and funky.
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Jimmy Dread wrote:

I find this a tad bizarre, because surely historical background, etc. shouldn't count one iota as to one's take on the music in the grooves. I've always appreciated music on a purely emotional level, and as I've said before if it makes me dance or sing loud or pick up a tennis racket and play air guitar or cry buckets or think deeply about the world around me or gives me the horn or lets me float away on a sea of bliss then that's infinitely more important to me than cultural/historical significance, technical proficiency, lyrical content, etc. Not saying you're wrong when you say that you'll appreciate the album on next listen because you know more about it - that's your prerogative - but knowing the inside leg measurement of the drummer or if the album was recorded in a dingy studio where damp was setting in and the coffee machine was bust counts for nowt when you stick the record on at a party and everyone just wants to get down and funky.

Good points. Totally agree that music should just jive immediately. Sometimes the best music doesn't though (at least in my experience). They grow on you either because you have changed your mood/mindset or because the song has a new meaning to it because of a deeper understanding of it. Atonal music for example... if I didn't understand the historical/cultural context of it, I would have ZERO appreciation for it. I still don't like it, but at least I can understand why there isn't a tonic and what it was trying to accomplish. From that perspective I can at least understand it and try and meet somewhere in the middle.

Same goes for this discussion. I didn't get why there was soul music that was so "complex" and so it kind of was a turn off because my expectations were different.

Kind of like when people go to the movies and if they have a high expectation and the movie doesn't meet it, they usually are disappointed. Opposite is also often true- go to a movie you have no expectation of and it turns out to be great or at least ok.

I suppose what I mean is my first listen around, I wasn't digging it. I didn't understand the significance of a 9 minute soul song and my first impression wasn't positive. I was expecting the pop song. Due to the discussion I can appreciate why the 9 minute song and am willing to give it a listen with a different point of view.

So no... the album didn't immediately connect with me (well it technically did, but then I got turned off by the length of songs/slightly more complex arrangements as previously mentioned).

But hey, if that don't jive, that's cool too. I guess I just process music differently.