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Skinny wrote:
A breakbeat is generally just a sampled solo drumbeat, often irregular, and used extensively in hip-hop and various genres of electronic music (but, most notably, in jungle/drum'n'bass). I think you mean 'big beat', which is a strange, vague term that was applied to catchy, hooky, festival-ready takes on dance music: The Prodigy, The Chemical Brothers, Fatboy Slim, Basement Jaxx, Bentley Rhythm Ace, et al. (In fairness, most of these artists do indeed make extensive use of breakbeats.)


I read on Rateyourmusic that breakbeat is a genre that also incorporates Jersey Club, Baltimore club and breakbeat hardcore. But I don't know where else to go for information on electronic styles and I'm careful concerning wikipedia.
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Spyglass wrote:
I read on Rateyourmusic that breakbeat is a genre that also incorporates Jersey Club, Baltimore club and breakbeat hardcore. But I don't know where else to go for information on electronic styles and I'm careful concerning wikipedia.


I'm not saying it's not a known or used term, but in years of following and listening to and reading about club- or rave-ready electronic music, particularly from the UK, I've never heard it used. 'Breakbeat hardcore' sounds like it could plausibly describe jungle or big beat (and probably did in some publications during the early 1990s), but whilst those genres contain some crossover there are also notable distinctions, as there are with B'more club also. Regardless, the term 'big beat' is stupid, and I generally consider The Prodigy to be a poppy hardcore act.
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I guess you and I just have different opinions. I get that the term seems stupid artly due to some level of ambiguity in the definition. I'm going to keep the term in mind, however, because I don't really consider the term any more or less stupid than the average tag.
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Spyglass wrote:
I guess you and I just have different opinions. I get that the term seems stupid artly due to some level of ambiguity in the definition. I'm going to keep the term in mind, however, because I don't really consider the term any more or less stupid than the average tag.


You should read Simon Reynolds' Energy Flash for some far more detailed descriptions of the distinctions between various strands of rave music.
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Skinny wrote:
You should read Simon Reynolds' Energy Flash for some far more detailed descriptions of the distinctions between various strands of rave music.


That might be good for me. I'm still working my way through basic electronica and I never use the term rave, so thanks for telling me about it.
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Firestarter aside - which is an absolute monster of a track - I’d be quite happy if I never listened to Fat Of The Land again. A product of its time, when rave culture was on the wane and lad culture was on the rise, it was far more of a hit with the indie-cum-Britpop types than the clubbers. Which is a shame, because Liam Howlett knew how to put a banger together (cf the previous two albums) and decided to serve up this pile of mediocre dross instead. Naturally most of the country was inebriated at the time so we didn’t care back then, but now those who were there have all come down the vast majority of this album feels like some post-rave pisstake.

Far more breakbeat on Experience, which is bloody great although might not be to everyone’s taste. And yeah, think you mean Big Beat, which was in a nutshell club vibes for indie kids.

And nowt wrong with early Chems Neil, esp. their JBO stuff and first LP. Started to go downhill rapidly when they got Noel’ed.
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