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CellarDoor
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Sorry for interrupting rockbusters, the best 90s album and fav song contests, but I wanted to know if there were any post-punk fanatics out there.

Giving way to alt-rock, industrial, no wave, noise, shoegazing, goth, I think it's one of the most interesting music periods.

People often quote here Joy Division, Echo and the Bunnymen, Gang Of Four..., but I'm a bit disappointed by some missing greats :

- Adam and the Antz "Dirk Wears White Sox"
- PIL "1st Issue" "Metal Box"
- Virgin Prunes "...If I Die, I Die"
- Pere Ubu "Terminal Tower"
- Au Pairs "Stepping Out Of Line"
- Cocteau Twins "Head Over Heels"
- Cabaret Voltaire "Red Mecca"
- Killing Joke "Killing Joke"
- Wall of Voodoo "Call of the West"

Definitely not easy-listening, but never fails to impress me !
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Try these post-punk albums:

Echo & the Bunnymen-Songs to Learn and Sing-1985
New Order-Substance-1987
Suicide-Suicide -2000
Talking Heads-Remain in Light-1980
The B-52's-The B-52's-1979
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teodor_matz

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The Feelies - Crazy Rythms
Suicide - Suicide
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
Joy Division - Closer
The Cure - Three Imaginary Boys
New Order - Power Corruption and Lies
Wire - Pink Flag


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JohnnyRocketFingers

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I'm not exactly sure where post-punk ends and gothic rock or college rock starts but here are some of my favorites:

Suicide - Suicide (Post-Punk before punk!)
Joy Division - Closer and Unknown Pleasures (The generic answer but still fantastic)
Wire - Missing Chairs
The Cure - Boys Don't Cry
Echo and the Bunnymen - Crocidiles
Magazine - Real Life
Gang of Four - Entertainment!
Talking Heads - Talking Heads 77 to Remain in Light
The Smiths - The Smiths and The Queen is Dead
Dead Can Dance - Dead Can Dance and Spleen and Ideal
Cocteu Twins - Head over Heels
XTC - Skylarking
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Modern Dance - Pere Ubu (1978)
Fire of Love - Gun Club (1981)
Y - Pop Group (1979)
Nail - Foetus (1985)
Not Available - Residents (1978)
Double Nickels on the Dime - Minutemen (1984)
Half Machine Lip Moves - Chrome (1979)
Remnants of a Deeper Purity - Black Tape for a Blue Girl (1996)
Zen Arcade - Husker Du (1984)
Songs the Lord Taught Us - Cramps (1980)
Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables - Dead Kennedys (1980)
Underwater Moonlight - Soft Boys (1980)
New Picnic Time - Pere Ubu (1979)
This Year's Model - Elvis Costello (1978)
Zeichnungen das Patienten OT - Einsturzende Neubaten (1983)
CellarDoor
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I'm not exactly sure where post-punk ends and gothic rock or college rock starts


Well, I'm not actually sure of the difference between post-punk and new wave. I tend to associate post-punk to rock, and new wave to pop.
But is XTC "Black Sea" post-punk or new wave ? Same for "Remain In Light", "Head Over Heels", "The Queen Is Dead", "The B-52's"
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The Feelies - Crazy Rhythms
Pere Ubu - Dub Housing
Pop Group - Y
Minutemen - Double Nickels On The Dime
This Heat - Deceit
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
Pere Ubu - The Modern Dance
Gun Club - Fire Of Love
The Raincoats - The Raincoats
Ganf of Four - Entertainment!
PiL - MetalBox
Wire - Pink Flag
Au Pairs - Playing With Different Sex
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I'm not exactly sure where post-punk ends and gothic rock or college rock starts


Well, I'm not actually sure of the difference between post-punk and new wave. I tend to associate post-punk to rock, and new wave to pop.
But is XTC "Black Sea" post-punk or new wave ? Same for "Remain In Light", "Head Over Heels", "The Queen Is Dead", "The B-52's"


Remain in Light feels more like an Art Rock album, The Queen Is Dead is a pop rock album for sure.
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Post-Punk isn't the main genre on those albums but there definate influences on it. Just listen to Morrisey's voice. Him and Ian Curtis have a similar style of singing.
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CellarDoor
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Yep, and even more "wish-we-could-sing-like-Ian Curtis" nowadays : Interpol, Franz Ferdinand, The Killers...


Here's one of the most early defining post-punk albums I can think of :
PIL's "First Issue". First step towards the post-punk classic "Metal Box", and new wave anthems like "This is not a love song".
Along with Magazine's "Real Life" (Howard Devoto's transformation from ex-Buzzcocks to post-punk), I think that Johnny Rotten's transformation from ex-Sex Pistols to John Lydon on this album is more than symbolic.

This album was very much hated on first release, and I must say that on first listen I felt cheated myself. But after a few spins, the radical change of direction in music at that time becomes all the more clear.

The opening "Theme", a 9min long repetition in self-loathing becomes really disturbing after a while :"I wish I could die" over and over, is quite mesmerising.
"Religion 1 and 2" are even more disturbing and blasphemous.
Then come along the best tracks "Annalisa", "Public Image" and "Low Life".
Whereas "Public Image" is the obvious post-punker, the other two are also truly thrilling.
To finish, "Attack", basic punk tune, is followed by "Fodderstompf", strange krautrock-disco. Another 7min of self-pity with falsetto voices screaming "We only wanted to be loved!", but it actually becomes quite catchy in the end.

It's a shame we can't find PiL on BEA, and I hope "First Issue" will be fully recognised as a pioneering album!
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