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- #41
- Posted: 01/31/2016 17:30
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| HoldenM wrote: |
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4. Longview
7. Basket Case
8. She
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Yes. All these plus Welcome to Paradise are so good. I prefer this one to American Idiot, just because it's a lot more consistent. I can't think of a bad song on this album, while American Idiot has filler songs like Are We the Waiting and Extraordinary Girl.
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benpaco
Who's gonna watch you die?
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- #42
- Posted: 01/31/2016 17:46
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| Satie wrote: | | you act as if it's a bad thing for people to just get to the point with pop music. My War is fucking unlistenable. Double Nickels will always be one of my earliest favorite records, but it's bloated as shit for what it is. |
| Applerill wrote: | | Green Day mostly sucks here, though, but that mostly has to do with a lack of songs like "Brain Stew". |
Never have I disagreed with both polar opposites of an argument more
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meccalecca
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- #43
- Posted: 01/31/2016 18:12
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There's a spectacular irony to the complaints that pop punk bands don't conform to punk's principles of non conformity.
While I may never listen to it, Dookie was a very important album in my story arc.
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- #44
- Posted: 01/31/2016 20:26
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| meccalecca wrote: | | There's a spectacular irony to the complaints that pop punk bands don't conform to punk's principles of non conformity. |
Well sure it's ironic when you put it like that, but it's the way it is. That's like saying any 'rebellion' against conformity is conformist by conforming to what a 'rebellion' is. If a punk band decided it'd be cool if all of their songs sounded neat and tidy and their songs were meticulously composed because they're not confirming to punk principles, they're not punk-punk, they're just not punk.
Common definition for punk is "political, anti-establishment". When you're anti-anti-establishment you're the establishment, which you could argue usually includes pop music. Hence the oxymoron.
Before I dig myself a deeper hole, I'm far from an expert on the genre, and really just trying to figure out what it is I don't like about pop-punk as a whole.
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