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| Poll: Which Song? |
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| Black Thought- Twofifteen |
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35% |
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| Stephen Malkmus & the Jicks- Middle America |
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64% |
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| Total Votes : 17 |
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Skinny
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- #11
- Posted: 03/03/2019 13:30
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| baystateoftheart wrote: | | Well, the last few times he’s trended, it’s been on the strength of adoration from black Twitter. Love to use which white people like something in order to deride black music that wasn’t made for white consumption in the first place. Suburban white teens who want to feel edgy are a major audience for a lot of trap rap that you wouldn’t call BAWP-hop, but are they any less boring really? |
Teenagers aren't BAWPs, for the most part. We are, though.
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mickilennial
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- #12
- Posted: 03/03/2019 13:53
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| Skinny wrote: | | Teenagers aren't BAWPs, for the most part. We are, though. |
are you saying there can't be teenage BAWPs (i prefer the term 'backpacker' still, too)
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- #13
- Posted: 03/03/2019 13:54
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| Gowi wrote: | | are you saying there can't be teenage BAWPs (i prefer the term 'backpacker' still, too) |
They can be, but it's way less likely.
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- #14
- Posted: 03/03/2019 13:58
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| Skinny wrote: | | They can be, but it's way less likely. |
one of the "mostly only on the internet" things, isn't it
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- #15
- Posted: 03/03/2019 13:59
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| Gowi wrote: | | one of the "mostly only on the internet" things, isn't it |
Precisely.
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mickilennial
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- #16
- Posted: 03/03/2019 14:03
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on another, semi-related point -- i really, really hate this line of thinking:
| Quote: | | which white people like something in order to deride black music that wasn’t made for white consumption in the first place. |
the idea of "white consumption" seems ridiculous to me and for those who've known me since the old BEA days should know why
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baystateoftheart
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- #17
- Posted: 03/03/2019 14:19
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| Skinny wrote: | | Teenagers aren't BAWPs, for the most part. We are, though. |
Wow, that's a bombshell admission! Props for the honesty.
A lot of those teenagers grow up and don't shed their listening habits. I'm thinking of all the business majors at college who thought they were cool and different for listening to Lil Wayne. My point is they're boring too, albeit in a different way. And more centrally, that I don't really agree with using the level of boringness of someone's white fanbase to pigeonhole a black artist.
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baystateoftheart
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- #18
- Posted: 03/03/2019 14:23
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| Gowi wrote: | on another, semi-related point -- i really, really hate this line of thinking:
| Quote: | | which white people like something in order to deride black music that wasn’t made for white consumption in the first place. |
the idea of "white consumption" seems ridiculous to me and for those who've known me since the old BEA days should know why |
Hmm. I'm not saying that anyone should feel sheepish about listening to or "consuming" anyone else's music on account of race. My point was just that Black Thought doesn't make music with an express aim of commercial viability among a white audience. Does that clarify things?
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mickilennial
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- #19
- Posted: 03/03/2019 14:23
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a little bit
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baystateoftheart
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- #20
- Posted: 03/03/2019 14:32
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| Skinny wrote: | | suffers from the same problem as every Black Thought song or verse: it's all extremely competent, but starved of personality, rendering it very forgettable. |
Black Thought's life story is subtext to a lot of his verses even if he doesn't often address it point-blank. Would you feel his music had more personality if he more often made the subtext the text?
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