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I would like to know what are some favorite albums that are not viewed well by most critics and listeners? I mean like do you love Self Portrait or Danse Manatee?
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I love Bee Gees Odessa and it seems like hardly anyone even knows about it (of course on BEA it's ranked 2nd of the Bee Gees albums). In general the Bee Gees seem to get a lot of disgust, despite their amazing songwriting and singing.
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I love the first Luther Vandross album, which I think is generally regarded by the traditional mainstream music press as a piece of lightweight pop-soul that represents the worst excesses of the post-disco early 1980s, whereby the rootsier, more guttural elements of soul music were sanded down and given a neon sheen (Prince sidestepped this by straddling a number of different genres and subsequently appealing to a number of audiences, whilst Michael Jackson sidestepped it by being so earth-conqueringly popular). To me, though, the album is pure bliss, with Marcus Miller's fat, melodic basslines anchoring everything, and Luther reeling off ridculously infectious hook after ridiculously infectious hook. Whereas his later albums never managed to get the banger-to-ballad ratio right, featuring ever more cloying love songs that felt impersonal and simply acted as springboards for Luther to display his (admittedly impressive) vocal acrobatics, Never Too Much is largely defined by its bounce and its snap, full of energetic paeans to young love that still sound fresh today. Perhaps it's a reputation shaped by the records that followed, or just a reaction to the perceived inauthentic nature of that particular brand of pop-soul, but Never Too Much deserves a serious reappraisal. It is joy.
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i mean i think most people see Caramelldansen as meme trash whereas i truly think Caramell made the best album ever so *massive shrug*
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I love everything that was put out there from Billy Joe Royal no matter how the rest of the planet looks at what the late beautiful precious brought forward.....I love him so much.

God bless you and his family always!!!

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I find these two albums as fantastic, yet media portrays them as terrible:


Pop by U2


Monster by R.E.M.
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That's probably because Pop is terrible!
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Gowi wrote:
That's probably because Pop is terrible!


hehee...


I still think these songs are fantastic off of it:


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But yes, even the band thinks it is their worst.

I disagree, but that's my opinion. I'd listen to this album over many, many other albums.
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Skinny wrote:
I love the first Luther Vandross album, which I think is generally regarded by the traditional mainstream music press as a piece of lightweight pop-soul that represents the worst excesses of the post-disco early 1980s, whereby the rootsier, more guttural elements of soul music were sanded down and given a neon sheen (Prince sidestepped this by straddling a number of different genres and subsequently appealing to a number of audiences, whilst Michael Jackson sidestepped it by being so earth-conqueringly popular). To me, though, the album is pure bliss, with Marcus Miller's fat, melodic basslines anchoring everything, and Luther reeling off ridculously infectious hook after ridiculously infectious hook. Whereas his later albums never managed to get the banger-to-ballad ratio right, featuring ever more cloying love songs that felt impersonal and simply acted as springboards for Luther to display his (admittedly impressive) vocal acrobatics, Never Too Much is largely defined by its bounce and its snap, full of energetic paeans to young love that still sound fresh today. Perhaps it's a reputation shaped by the records that followed, or just a reaction to the perceived inauthentic nature of that particular brand of pop-soul, but Never Too Much deserves a serious reappraisal. It is joy.


Hmm... didn't know Marcus Miller played on this album. Very cool. Thanks!
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sethmadsen wrote:
I find these two albums as fantastic, yet media portrays them as terrible:


Pop by U2


Monster by R.E.M.


I'd with agree these. I think the problem had less to do with the actual quality of the albums and more to do with the fact that both bands were coming down off of career and artistic highs that these albums just couldn't measure up to. As a result, they got judged more harshly than they probably deserved. It didn't help that both bands were taking left turns with their sound (U2 going full dance, and R.E.M. returning to their rock roots, respectively), that the public didn't seem want at the time. I think both are fine when judged on their own merits.


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