No way those crazy white supremacist mofos Peste Noire are getting my vote, whoever they'll be put up against. In any case, Have One On Me is very good, if (let thy punishment fall!) a bit long.
Both exist in alternate universes different than my own, but I'd much rather hear the pixie weave those immaculate webs of poetry than be dragged down to hell. _________________ http://jonnyleather.com
I suppose Newsom winning this is inevitable, nonetheless.....
You should all listen to Peste Noire.
I think creative, interesting music can transcend whatever individual ideology/morals/intentions the creators have (a belief perhaps occasionally necessary when dealing with extreme kinds of music). Peste Noire's music is certainly creative; I'd say its probably my favourite metal album of the 2000's. La Sanie Des Siecles presents a sickening, super raw variation of lo-fi black metal, that somehow through medieval folk influences (and the odd hint to traditional metal) achieves a sort of refined, decadent atmosphere.
Check out how this song pairs a ridiculously catchy medieval sounding acoustic guitar riff against noisy distortion and painfully shrill screams (which seem to become squeaks and gurgles part way though their completion). The acoustic riff is nice enough on its own, but achieves something greater when paired against the decaying primitivism of the rest of the song.
This song has not only acoustic guitar, but also gorgeous use of tapping for the electric guitar intro, and soaring grandiose organ chords in what might be called a chorus section. At the same time the song features what are probably the album's most intense riffs. By the end of the song everything decays into a primal (but quite catchy) folk dance.
Here is the longest and perhaps most complexly structured song on the album. The most obvious features are the extended acoustic guitar solos. Underneath that however the song goes under a quiet metamorphoses; the intro of the band starts as full on noisy blast-beats and dissonance, but in a series of tempo shifts and increasing melodicism, the song becomes a speedy 6/8 time folky thing. Even then the listener is not left at peace, the band still introduces new riff after new riff, switching register and mood at will.
To repeat myself one last time, all these songs (and the album as a whole) are built on intuitive contrasts: they pit black metal the harsh lo-fi art against black metal the mystical atmospheric art, and then throw in melodic solos and decadent medieval-folk influences. This all creates something both unique and emotionally evocative. When so many attempts to incorporate folk elements into metal come of like some cheesy caricature, music that manages to make such a natural fusion (one that manages to be both archaic, intense, primitive, and melodic) deserves attention.
I adore Ys... but neither of Joanna's other albums do nearly as much for me. It's weird when an artist makes only one piece of work that lasts for me. It's like everything went right just the one time or something. I don't know.
I consider Peste Noire to be one of my more interesting finds of the tournament. That said, the first listen was more engaging for me than the second. Maybe it's my mood right now? I don't know.
I'll go with Newsom because Have One On Me still manages to take me somewhere, even if I find it a little boring.
I adore Ys... but neither of Joanna's other albums do nearly as much for me. It's weird when an artist makes only one piece of work that lasts for me. It's like everything went right just the one time or something. I don't know.
I consider Peste Noire to be one of my more interesting finds of the tournament. That said, the first listen was more engaging for me than the second. Maybe it's my mood right now? I don't know.
I'll go with Newsom because Have One On Me still manages to take me somewhere, even if I find it a little boring.
You were saying yesterday that you generally find vocals/lyrics to be off-putting in your musical experience, so this makes sense. Have One On Me is an incredibly lyrical record, where I find Ys to have slightly more interesting arrangements, thanks for Van Dyke Parks. _________________ http://jonnyleather.com
I suppose Newsom winning this is inevitable, nonetheless.....
You should all listen to Peste Noire.
I think creative, interesting music can transcend whatever individual ideology/morals/intentions the creators have (a belief perhaps occasionally necessary when dealing with extreme kinds of music). Peste Noire's music is certainly creative; I'd say its probably my favourite metal album of the 2000's. La Sanie Des Siecles presents a sickening, super raw variation of lo-fi black metal, that somehow through medieval folk influences (and the odd hint to traditional metal) achieves a sort of refined, decadent atmosphere.
Musically, I have to agree, this stuff is incredibly interesting. I hate to over generalize, but Black Metal vocals kill an otherwise remarkable genre for me. I understand that it's a stylistic choice that conveys a certain mood, but it just doesn't work for me _________________ http://jonnyleather.com
I'd say both are lyrical though. I suppose Joanna's albums are a lot like opening a book.
I might disagree with the arrangements thing but I'm not sure of myself. Sometimes I wish Ys only consisted of Joanna's voice and the harp. Maybe have some bird samples in the background and other nature stuff. At the same time, there might not be anything particularly wrong with the arrangements either. Perhaps they actually enhance the album and I just don't know it. I do know that I find the album to be so so transportive and emotionally resonant.
Musically, I have to agree, this stuff is incredibly interesting. I hate to over generalize, but Black Metal vocals kill an otherwise remarkable genre for me. I understand that it's a stylistic choice that conveys a certain mood, but it just doesn't work for me
For me it was just a matter of getting used to the vocals, like anything they just seem normal and make perfect sense after a while. In a way I think they are necessary beyond being just a coincidental stylistic preference among these sorts of musicians; the focus on intricate riffs and instrumental interplay in extreme metal almost demands the vocals play a purely rhythmic/atmospheric role, lest it clutter up everything else or accidentally shift the focus of the music too close to something melodic. Extreme metal with frequent or dominant clean vocals can be harder to listen to for me, actually sounding less natural or even more ridiculous (might be exceptions though).
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