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Yann
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- Posted: 02/19/2018 14:23
- Post subject: (many facets of) 1967 psychedelia
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Of these four psychedelic albums of 1967 :
Which one have you listened the most ?
Which one do you think has aged and will age best ?
This West coast psychedelia ? (January 1967)
This New York psychedelia ? (March 1967)
This British psychedelia ? (August 1967)
This hippie folk psychedelia ? (November 1967 – despite the summer feel )
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BeA Sunflower
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- Posted: 02/19/2018 14:32
- Post subject: Re: (many facets of) 1967 psychedelia
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Yann wrote: | Of these four psychedelic albums of 1967 :
Which one have you listened the most ?
Which one do you think has aged and will age best ?
This West coast psychedelia ? (January 1967)
This New York psychedelia ? (March 1967)
This British psychedelia ? (August 1967)
This hippie folk psychedelia ? (November 1967 – despite the summer feel )
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I LOVE them all & ALL r essential imo. The Doors s/t has aged the worst, but it's still a 5 star classic. My ranking would be as follows ...
1. VU & Nico
2 & 3. Love - Forever changes = Pink Floyd - Piper
4. The Doors -s/t
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glynspsa
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- Posted: 02/19/2018 15:07
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I have heard all 4 countless times. I love them all but to me the doors has aged the poorest. I'd say it's my least listened to if those 4 over the last maybe 20 years.
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elo269megv
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- Posted: 02/19/2018 16:02
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The Doors are the top of this list... I've listened to that album countless times and it never fails to amaze me. One of the greatest debut albums and one of the greatest albums PERIOD... Strange Days is a little more psychedelic in my opinion and almost just as strong. _________________ Jeff Lynne 5th Beatle
Post-Hardcore: https://www.besteveralbums.com/thechart.php?c=52396
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Rhyner
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- Posted: 02/19/2018 19:06
- Post subject: Re: (many facets of) 1967 psychedelia
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Yann wrote: | Which one have you listened the most ? |
The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn by Pink Floyd
When I first really started getting into music in high school, Pink Floyd was among my first big discoveries. I put their entire discography on my mp3 player and listened on repeat.
Quote: | Which one do you think has aged and will age best ? |
Personally, I love Forever Changes the most. I didn't fall for it right away, but I kept listening to it because it pops up so frequently on greatest-of-all-time lists, and it has really grown on me.
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bobbyb5
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- Posted: 02/19/2018 20:13
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I've listened to the Doors the most, and I've never lost interest in it since I first heard it when I was a kid. And the other ones I kind of lose interest in for long periods. It's hard to say which will age the best. I'd pick the Doors though.
You left out one category of psychedelia though, Pop Psychedelia. I'm kind of half joking, but there were several in the 60s that were like half bubblegum music and half Psychedelia. It was like psychedelia for pre-teens or something. Heh heh. They were totally bizarre. The thing is though, some of them were really great. And many were even big hits. These are my favorites here.
Theyre actually very enjoyable, and have every stereotypical psychedelic effect you could hope for. Lol. They are unbelievable fun.
But needless to say, they have definitely aged the very worst.
The songs that you want to hear are the title songs on each album, although the entire albums are a trip.
Green Tambourine by The Lemon Pipers
Crimson & Clover by Tommy James And The Shondells
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theblueboy
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- Posted: 02/19/2018 20:53
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bobbyb5 wrote: | I've listened to the Doors the most, and I've never lost interest in it since I first heard it when I was a kid. And the other ones I kind of lose interest in for long periods. It's hard to say which will age the best. I'd pick the Doors though.
You left out one category of psychedelia though, Pop Psychedelia. I'm kind of half joking, but there were several in the 60s that were like half bubblegum music and half Psychedelia. It was like psychedelia for pre-teens or something. Heh heh. They were totally bizarre. The thing is though, some of them were really great. And many were even big hits. These are my favorites here.
Theyre actually very enjoyable, and have every stereotypical psychedelic effect you could hope for. Lol. They are unbelievable fun.
But needless to say, they have definitely aged the very worst.
The songs that you want to hear are the title songs on each album, although the entire albums are a trip.
Crimson & Clover by Tommy James And The Shondells |
I love Crimson and Clover. What a great track. I think I first heard it in the Jim Jarmusch Film-Cigarettes and Coffee or something like that- and I had to know immediately what this song was and find it. I really gotta hear it again now
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bobbyb5
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- Posted: 02/19/2018 21:01
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Michael1981 wrote: | bobbyb5 wrote: | I've listened to the Doors the most, and I've never lost interest in it since I first heard it when I was a kid. And the other ones I kind of lose interest in for long periods. It's hard to say which will age the best. I'd pick the Doors though.
You left out one category of psychedelia though, Pop Psychedelia. I'm kind of half joking, but there were several in the 60s that were like half bubblegum music and half Psychedelia. It was like psychedelia for pre-teens or something. Heh heh. They were totally bizarre. The thing is though, some of them were really great. And many were even big hits. These are my favorites here.
Theyre actually very enjoyable, and have every stereotypical psychedelic effect you could hope for. Lol. They are unbelievable fun.
But needless to say, they have definitely aged the very worst.
The songs that you want to hear are the title songs on each album, although the entire albums are a trip.
Crimson & Clover by Tommy James And The Shondells |
I love Crimson and Clover. What a great track. I think I first heard it in the Jim Jarmusch Film-Cigarettes and Coffee or something like that- and I had to know immediately what this song was and find it. I really gotta hear it again now |
There's one other song on the album that equals Crimson and Clover. It's called Crystal Blue Persuasion and I think it was a number one hit. I'm pretty sure it was anyway..
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Yann
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- Posted: 02/19/2018 21:42
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bobbyb5 wrote: | I've listened to the Doors the most, and I've never lost interest in it since I first heard it when I was a kid. And the other ones I kind of lose interest in for long periods. It's hard to say which will age the best. I'd pick the Doors though. |
Yes, I believe that, although the Doors are not currently very much "in fashion", they may enjoy another comeback someday, like the one they had in 1991 after the Oliver Stone film.
bobbyb5 wrote: | You left out one category of psychedelia though, Pop Psychedelia. I'm kind of half joking, but there were several in the 60s that were like half bubblegum music and half Psychedelia. It was like psychedelia for pre-teens or something. Heh heh. They were totally bizarre. The thing is though, some of them were really great. And many were even big hits. These are my favorites here.
Theyre actually very enjoyable, and have every stereotypical psychedelic effect you could hope for. Lol. They are unbelievable fun.
But needless to say, they have definitely aged the very worst.
The songs that you want to hear are the title songs on each album, although the entire albums are a trip.
Green Tambourine by The Lemon Pipers
Crimson & Clover by Tommy James And The Shondells |
Crimson & Clover's riff is very Sweet Jane isn't it ?
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albumceleste
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- Posted: 02/19/2018 22:25
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Of these four psychedelic albums of 1967 :
Which one have you listened the most ?
Difficult question. Probably The Doors because my first listen was around 14 and piper/velvet/forever changes around 17-18. But I listened to the four countless times, so really can't tell.
Which one do you think has aged and will age best ?
I think rock era has saturated our ears with musical elements reminiscent of the Blues and Folk tradition. So any album that avoids them or keep 'em in check feels "less old" or fresher. In this aspect VU&N and Piper sound "less blues & roots" than TD and FCh.
Taking another different point of view, late 60s psychedelia had a great degree of baroqueness and "just put whatever that sounds weird" excesses, so an album with that loose and exhuberant soundscape just tends to sound constricted to that era. In this aspect Piper and Forever changes sound totally 67, while The Doors and VU&N could have been from other eras and still work.
So my vote goes for VU&N about wich aged best.
Which one do you think has aged and will age best ?
This is totally about speculation, but on a big timeframe artists and artwork tend to be judged and enjoyed because of their art itself and not their circumstances.
Piper's composition is sometimes childlike naive -wich is great, but not shocking to the audience as it was in pop-rock-soul saturated 67-, Forever Changes has a lot of art-folk albums that sound-alike it, and the value of VU&N lyrics could be hipotetically irrelevant to people on another era where sex taboos or drugs are replaced by other concerns so you're left with very basic two/four chords songwriting foundation with some harsh sound on top, etc.
In this aspect alone, my feeling is that The Doors has reached the higuest artistic peaks so to speak both in composition and recorded performance as well -The End will probably still sound humanly apocalyptic to anyone anywhere for any time being-.
Of course totally speculative and just my opinion as no one can answer this part of the question.
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