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Poll: Your pick for 2022 NBA champs: |
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76ers |
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Bucks |
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Lakers |
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Mavs |
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junodog4
Future Grumpy Old Man
Gender: Male
Location: Calgary
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- #1
- Posted: 10/19/2021 03:58
- Post subject: 2021-22 NBA Season
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Who do you have, BEA?
My futile attempt at predictions:
EAST
1. Heat - With some Bucks tired and the Nets missing Irving, I think the Heat will be 1st... ...in the regular season.
2. Nets - Even without Mr. Flat Earth, Harden and Durant are killer.
3. Bucks - Too many Olympians. Still stacked, however.
4. 76ers - Simmonds is too much of a question mark.
5. Pacers - Solid, but not flashy.
6. Knicks - Will keep building.
7. Bulls - Back in the mix.
8. Hawks - I actually think there will be a hangover. The new rules hurt Young.
9. Celtics - Just miss out. The playoff race in the East will be tight.
10. Raps - Anunoby and Van Vleet will outshine Siakam.
11. Wizards - Poor Beal. Wasted.
12. Hornets - Solid, but not enough.
13. Pistons - So fun to watch, but will not contend.
14. Cavs - Worth it just to watch SexLand.
15. Magic - One more year of tank. Play the kids.
WEST
1. Jazz - Again. But this time, they won't flame out in the post-season.
2. Mavs - If Porzingis stays healthy.
3. Blazers - Yup... Larry Nance and a healthy Nurkic get these guys higher up. A weaker West helps too.
4. Lakers - Too many injury and 'maintenance' issues.
5. Suns - Not as good as last year.
6. Warriors - Guess who's back... back again.
7. Nuggets - No Murray hurts.
8. Grizzlies - Young and fun.
9. Clippers - No Leonard hurts.
10. Kings - Close to contending.
11. Wolves - Not a typo. I think they'll start to give teams trouble.
12. Pelicans - How long before Zion wants out?
13. Spurs - Need to rebuild.
14. Rockets - Rebuilding in full swing.
15. Thunder - How many picks do they have? _________________ Finnegan was super bad-ass.
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LedZep
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- Posted: 10/19/2021 23:18
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It's tough as always
EAST
1. Nets
2. Bucks
3. Heat
4. 76ers
5. Celtics
6. Raps
7. Bulls
8. Hawks
9. Knicks
10. Pacers
11. Hornets
12. Wizards
13. Pistons
14. Cavs
15. Magic
WEST
1. Jazz
2. Lakers
3. Warriors
4. Suns
5. Nuggets
6. Mavs
7. Clippers
8. Blazers
9. Grizzlies
10. Kings
11. Spurs
12. T'wolves
13. Pelicans
14. Rockets
15. Thunder _________________ Finally updated the overall chart
2020s
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AfterHours
Gender: Male
Location: originally from scaruffi.com ;-)
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- #3
- Posted: 10/20/2021 00:59
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REGULAR SEASON
WEST
1. Jazz
2. Lakers
3. Suns
4. Mavericks
5. Nuggets
6. Warriors
7. Blazers
8. Clippers
EAST
1. Nets
2. Bucks
3. Heat
4. 76ers
5. Celtics
6. Hawks
7. Bulls
8. Knicks
WEST PLAYOFFS - 1st Round
1. Jazz ... 4
8. Clippers ... 3
4. Mavericks ... 4
5. Nuggets ... 2
3. Suns ... 4
6. Warriors ... 3
2. Lakers ... 4
7. Blazers ... 0
EAST PLAYOFFS - 1st Round
1. Nets ... 4
8. Knicks ... 0
4. 76ers ... 4
5. Celtics ... 3
3. Heat ... 4
6. Hawks ... 1
2. Bucks ... 4
7. Bulls ... 1
WEST PLAYOFFS - 2nd Round
1. Jazz ... 4
4. Mavericks ... 3
3. Suns ... 2
2. Lakers ... 4
EAST PLAYOFFS - 2nd Round
1. Nets ... 4
4. 76ers ... 2
3. Heat ... 3
2. Bucks ... 4
WEST PLAYOFFS - CONF FINALS
1. Jazz ... 2
2. Lakers ... 4
EAST PLAYOFFS - CONF FINALS
1. Nets ... 4
2. Bucks ... 3
NBA FINALS
Lakers ... 4
Nets ... 3
My slight doubts with the Nets don't lie in their talent (if Kyrie plays, they are possibly the greatest offensive team in history). Their full team, on paper, should be the favorite. But I just think that 2 of their top players, while superstar talents (Irving, Harden) are likely to either get distracted and lose focus and/or just aren't sacrificial/disciplined enough to lead a team to a title. At the same time, they are the team that can afford the most setbacks and plausibly still win, but usually when a team doesn't have the personnel to fight through the barriers (thinks they've earned it already more so than hungrier teams) that it usually takes to get a title, they find a way not to or are "unlucky", or if their players are also injury prone (like Irving), it just doesn't work out (see Nets last year, see Clippers last 2 years...).
My slight doubts with the Lakers don't lie in their talent either (they are probably the most talented team, top to bottom, ever assembled this year), but definitely do lie in the plausibility of injury, especially if major injury to Lebron or Davis (like what happened last year). And obviously their age is a concern (particularly Lebron ... the rest of their older players are mainly role players). They could actually afford to lose Westbrook during the season and still be the best team in the West, but I do think his relentlessness and fire will prove decisive in the playoffs in putting them over the hump past the best teams. And if Lebron and the coaches can work him in to where he isn't so mistake prone and doesn't have the ball in his hands for too many of the clutch possessions, he could be a really great addition because he is going to be especially driven to prove himself on a championship team. Their defense will probably be a concern in the first portion of the year but as Ariza returns and Bradley rounds into form, this should help short up the wings, along with good team D. I think Davis will have an MVP caliber bounce-back year, and this sort of production is a major reason why I am picking them (and their size and passing and easy buckets, plus superior D to the Nets, would be key reasons why I would pick them to beat them in the Finals). _________________ Best Classical
Best Films
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cestuneblague
Edgy to the Choir
Location: MA/FL
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- #4
- Posted: 10/20/2021 20:54
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Quote: | The Knicks are coming. It took twenty years, but they're coming. |
Lol
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LedZep
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- Posted: 04/15/2022 09:31
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LedZep wrote: | It's tough as always
EAST
1. Nets
2. Bucks
3. Heat
4. 76ers
5. Celtics
6. Raps
7. Bulls
8. Hawks
9. Knicks
10. Pacers
11. Hornets
12. Wizards
13. Pistons
14. Cavs
15. Magic
WEST
1. Jazz
2. Lakers
3. Warriors
4. Suns
5. Nuggets
6. Mavs
7. Clippers
8. Blazers
9. Grizzlies
10. Kings
11. Spurs
12. T'wolves
13. Pelicans
14. Rockets
15. Thunder |
Not too bad in the East. The Nets were a rollercoaster with the trade and all the injuries/COVID, but I've correctly predicted a bounce back season for the Celtics and Raps. The order is a bit different, but all of the top teams are correct (apart from the Nets). Also guessed right that the Hawks aren't as good as their run last year suggests (plus they were injured a lot). Same goes for the Knicks, but they were even worse than I expected. Cavs... Completely fooled me. I'm rooting for them next season.
West is hard and apparently I have no idea what I'm talking about. Lakers, Grizzlies, Jazz, Suns, Twolves, Kings... Whatever.
East
MIA - ATL/CLE
Not sure what to expect from Heat in a tough series. But they should win the first round easily, 5 games.
BOS - BKN
The biggest question mark. I'm gonna go Nets in 7, KD and Kyrie combo is too much for a Time Lord-less defense. Simmons is back for games 6/7 according to the latest report.
MIL - CHI
Probably a 5 game series, DeRozan will go thermonuclear at least once, and the Bucks will shoot 20% from 3pt at least once as well. Love both teams, my favourite duel this round.
PHI - TOR
Philly in 7. Raptors are the only team that's managed to consistently slow down Embiid with their collection of long, athletic wings and weird defense. "Slow down" as in bother him a little with their planned scheme rather than Joel having a random off game. The Raptors offensive output is the deciding factor here and I just don't trust anyone on their team against Embiid standing in the paint, nor do I trust their 3pt shot.
West
PHX - LAC/NOP
Sweep
MEM - MIN
The series I'm looking forward to the most in the west. Two young, hungry small market teams with lots to prove. Grizzlies in 5 or 6.
GSW - DEN
Warriors in 6. Jokic may be the MVP, but I don't see an upset here, despite the Warriors being meh the last 2 months. Of course, it depends on Curry and Dray being healthy and 100%.
DAL - UTA
The toughest one to predict imo. If Utah get their shit together, they could win easily, but nothing suggests that will happen. If Dončić is healthy, his PnR will abuse Utah's weak defense. I'm gonna say Dallas in 6, but it depends on Dončić's health. _________________ Finally updated the overall chart
2020s
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Repo
BeA Sunflower
Location: Forest Park
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- #6
- Posted: 04/15/2022 12:07
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LedZep wrote: |
BOS - BKN
The biggest question mark. I'm gonna go Nets in 7, KD and Kyrie combo is too much for a Time Lord-less defense. Simmons is back for games 6/7 according to the latest report.
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We need to place a bet, brother!!! How about who ever loses posts their top TEN metal albums of 1983 FIRST. (I always like to go last with that! I'm St. Vitus SLOW!)
I'm soooooo looking forward to this matchup!!! Bring us Kyrie!!! <on a pike! >
BLEED GREEN, BABY!!!
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LedZep
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- Posted: 04/15/2022 22:03
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Repo wrote: | LedZep wrote: |
BOS - BKN
The biggest question mark. I'm gonna go Nets in 7, KD and Kyrie combo is too much for a Time Lord-less defense. Simmons is back for games 6/7 according to the latest report.
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We need to place a bet, brother!!! How about who ever loses posts their top TEN metal albums of 1983 FIRST. (I always like to go last with that! I'm St. Vitus SLOW!)
I'm soooooo looking forward to this matchup!!! Bring us Kyrie!!! <on a pike! >
BLEED GREEN, BABY!!! | I've got no horse in this race, this is just my guess! But it's a fun challenge, I'm in. See you in 2 weeks with top 10s. _________________ Finally updated the overall chart
2020s
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Repo
BeA Sunflower
Location: Forest Park
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- Posted: 04/15/2022 22:35
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LedZep wrote: | Repo wrote: | LedZep wrote: |
BOS - BKN
The biggest question mark. I'm gonna go Nets in 7, KD and Kyrie combo is too much for a Time Lord-less defense. Simmons is back for games 6/7 according to the latest report.
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We need to place a bet, brother!!! How about who ever loses posts their top TEN metal albums of 1983 FIRST. (I always like to go last with that! I'm St. Vitus SLOW!)
I'm soooooo looking forward to this matchup!!! Bring us Kyrie!!! <on a pike! >
BLEED GREEN, BABY!!! | I've got no horse in this race, this is just my guess! But it's a fun challenge, I'm in. See you in 2 weeks with top 10s. |
\m/
<1983 is an insane year for metal. Scouted it out today & just ten is going to be rough!!! Luckily, my Celtics r going to win!!! >
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AfterHours
Gender: Male
Location: originally from scaruffi.com ;-)
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- #9
- Posted: 04/16/2022 21:19
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New picks...
WEST - 1st Round
1. Suns in 4
8. Pelicans
4. Mavericks in 7
5. Jazz
.... Luka needs to play at least 5, perhaps 6 games, otherwise I doubt this will hold. At the same time, I am counting on Jazz downward trajectory over the last third of the season, otherwise (if they really show up as a unit) they might be just a bit too much for the Mavs...
3. Warriors in 6
6. Nuggets
... Assuming Steph is healthy, otherwise this could go 7. Jokic's all-around, monster production should be good enough to steal a win or 2 even when there is otherwise a fairly big talent discrepancy between the teams.
2. Grizzlies in 5
7. Timberwolves
EAST - 1st Round
1. Heat in 5
8. Hawks
4. 76ers in 7
5. Raptors
... With 76ers second best defensive player being out for potentially half the series (can't play in Toronto), this is a wash, but I think in the end Embiid will be too much and Harden will show up in enough games. Still, Toronto is the more balanced, deeper team probably, and I wouldn't be surprised if the 76ers bowed out in the first round. I'm not a fan of Harden (more his attitude and how he quits and bails his way out of his contracts, than his play ... I'm not a huge fan of his style of play either but I can respect the talent). So I wouldn't mind at all if he fails as, despite his obvious talent, he is perhaps the least "deserving" superstar in recent memory. On the contrary, I really like Embiid, so rooting for or against the 76ers comes with mixed feelings.
3. Bucks in 5
6. Bulls
2. Celtics in 7
7. Nets
... Maybe the toughest 1st round pick I've ever seen. Something inside of me wants to pick the Nets, and I almost did, because Durant is just so overwhelming offensively especially as the screws tighten in the playoffs as teams become familiar with each other. I consider this a toss up but went with the Celtics because the advanced stats and virtually every metric favors them by ... a lot ... and because they're so well rounded defensively, starting to become kind of reminiscent of the 96-98 Bulls, not that I actually think they're THAT good or have THAT level of synergy, but Smart, Tatum and Williams are among the best at their positions defensively, with Tatum and Brown being the key offensive players not dissimilar to the roles those Bulls played). That said, a major difference maker could be if Simmons returns for the Nets and isn't too rusty, and especially if he makes significant contributions defensively and as a play maker. And, for the Celtics, Williams returning early in the series could push them over the top.
WEST - 2nd Round
1. Suns in 5
4. Mavs
2. Grizzlies
3. Warriors in 6
EAST - 2nd Round
1. Heat in 6
4. 76ers
2. Celtics
3. Bucks in 7
WEST - Conf Finals
1. Suns in 7
3. Warriors
EAST - Conf Finals
1. Heat
3. Bucks in 7
NBA FINALS
Suns in 6 over Bucks
... Suns are firing on all cylinders, seem extra inspired this year, and check all the metrics and talent boxes, so should be the favorite. I'm rooting for Paul as well. He deserves a ring. I really like the fact that he has never taken the easier route (by forming a "super team") and that he clearly makes any team he is on better as a result of his leadership, talent and attention to detail (perhaps the smartest player in the current NBA along with, maybe even above, Lebron).
I would be pretty surprised if the Suns don't get to the Finals. Only a healthy Warriors team should be able to stop them. On the East, it's virtually a toss up between the Celtics, Bucks, Heat, and you could probably throw the Nets in there and even the 76ers (if Harden shows up consistently and doesn't over-reach towards trying to draw fouls instead of "just playing" and being their primary play maker when the game slows down and defenses hone in on him). In the end, I only picked the Bucks because, barring injury, I know Giannis is going to bring it (fearlessly, no question marks), and they play very well as a unit that really knows their roles, and they overall are the most reliable playoff team (ex: 76ers or Boston could realistically lose in the first round but this is extremely unlikely with the Bucks). The East 2nd round, with likely four legitimate contenders playing each other, should be epic. That all said, my Bucks confidence is only by a razor thin margin. After all, the Celtics LOOK like they should come out of the East if we're basing it on the last few months of basketball. And any of those other teams could beat the Bucks if they get hot because the top end talent discrepancy between those 5 is very small, practically a wash. On any given night, Durant is the best player in the league (with no offensive weaknesses), and this gets especially important in the playoffs when he can't be stopped despite the other team's familiarity with them (remember last year when the Nets nearly beat the Bucks with a hobbled Harden and no Kyrie?). That's hard to shake when making picks... _________________ Best Classical
Best Films
Best Paintings
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junodog4
Future Grumpy Old Man
Gender: Male
Location: Calgary
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- #10
- Posted: 04/17/2022 19:36
- Post subject: Re: 2021-22 NBA Season
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junodog4 wrote: | Who do you have, BEA?
My futile attempt at predictions:
EAST
1. Heat - With some Bucks tired and the Nets missing Irving, I think the Heat will be 1st... ...in the regular season.
2. Nets - Even without Mr. Flat Earth, Harden and Durant are killer.
3. Bucks - Too many Olympians. Still stacked, however.
4. 76ers - Simmonds is too much of a question mark.
5. Pacers - Solid, but not flashy.
6. Knicks - Will keep building.
7. Bulls - Back in the mix.
8. Hawks - I actually think there will be a hangover. The new rules hurt Young.
9. Celtics - Just miss out. The playoff race in the East will be tight.
10. Raps - Anunoby and Van Vleet will outshine Siakam.
11. Wizards - Poor Beal. Wasted.
12. Hornets - Solid, but not enough.
13. Pistons - So fun to watch, but will not contend.
14. Cavs - Worth it just to watch SexLand.
15. Magic - One more year of tank. Play the kids.
WEST
1. Jazz - Again. But this time, they won't flame out in the post-season.
2. Mavs - If Porzingis stays healthy.
3. Blazers - Yup... Larry Nance and a healthy Nurkic get these guys higher up. A weaker West helps too.
4. Lakers - Too many injury and 'maintenance' issues.
5. Suns - Not as good as last year.
6. Warriors - Guess who's back... back again.
7. Nuggets - No Murray hurts.
8. Grizzlies - Young and fun.
9. Clippers - No Leonard hurts.
10. Kings - Close to contending.
11. Wolves - Not a typo. I think they'll start to give teams trouble.
12. Pelicans - How long before Zion wants out?
13. Spurs - Need to rebuild.
14. Rockets - Rebuilding in full swing.
15. Thunder - How many picks do they have? |
Well dang.
I was way off on the Pacers and Knicks, and didn't see the Cavs coming (who did?). I was also well off on the Lakers and Blazers. I'll say I was sorta right about the Wolves and Grizzlies, but not as much as I'd hope.
For the playoffs:
EAST
Heat over Hawks in 5 - Not this year, IceTrae.
Nets over Celtics in 7 - Celtics are too banged up
Bucks over Bulls in 5 - Bucks too much for a flawed Bulls
76ers over Raps in 6 - Pains me to say so. This is especially true if Barnes is hurt.
76ers over Heat in 7 - Will be a classic.
Bucks over Nets in 7 - Likewise. Bucks depth wins out.
Bucks over 76ers in 6 - Embiid won't be able to bully the frontcourt if Lopez is healthy.
WEST
Suns over Pelicans in 4 - Too much for the young Pelicans.
Grizz over Wolves in 7 - Should be so much fun.
Warriors over Nuggets in 6 - Jokic doesn't have enough help.
Jazz over Mavs in 7 - Doncic is hurt.
Suns over Jazz in 6 - Suns are more cohesive than Jazz.
Warriors over Grizz in 6 - Closer than you'd think. Warriors are banged up.
Suns over Warriors in 5.
FINALS
Bucks repeat! Over Suns in 7. _________________ Finnegan was super bad-ass.
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