Rocka's Subgenre Essentials: Post-Hardcore
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Tha1ChiefRocka 
From the classic to the obscure, here are 10 essential Post Hardcore albums.
And 2 honorable mentions :)
- Chart updated: 07/17/2020 20:45
- (Created: 08/24/2017 02:58).
- Chart size: 12 albums.
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Top Tracks: Obliteration, Slip It In, Black Coffee
Why it's essential: How do you know when something is in the "Post" version of itself? well, probably when one of the progenitors of the genre has changed their own approach to music in a way to almost be blatantly trying to destroy what they created. Songs have become even longer and a heavier focus on the instrumentals makes this a vastly different Black Flag than the one that made damage. But the angst and the anger are still thoroughly intact. [First added to this chart: 12/02/2017]
Why it's essential: How do you know when something is in the "Post" version of itself? well, probably when one of the progenitors of the genre has changed their own approach to music in a way to almost be blatantly trying to destroy what they created. Songs have become even longer and a heavier focus on the instrumentals makes this a vastly different Black Flag than the one that made damage. But the angst and the anger are still thoroughly intact. [First added to this chart: 12/02/2017]
Top Tracks: Something I Learned Today, Never Talking To You Again, Chartered Trips, Beyond The Threshold, Standing By The Sea, Pink Turns Blue, Whatever
Why it's essential: For essentially the same reasons stated for Black Flag. The evolution of the early hardcore punk bands into something that incorporated greater musical ambitions, but still based in the roots of the angry disenfranchised punk spirit. [First added to this chart: 12/02/2017]
Why it's essential: For essentially the same reasons stated for Black Flag. The evolution of the early hardcore punk bands into something that incorporated greater musical ambitions, but still based in the roots of the angry disenfranchised punk spirit. [First added to this chart: 12/02/2017]
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1984
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Top Tracks: It's Catching Up, Stocktaking, The End Of All Things, Oh No Bruno!, Life in Hell
Why it's essential: You have to put a genre label on albums even if they're not exactly accurate. Wrong is an album that doesn't really have any peer as far as I'm concerned when it comes to the fusion of punk, metal, and whatever jazz or math tendencies come up in certain spots on the album. Sorry for the blue humor, but it blasts my nuts off everytime I listen to it. [First added to this chart: 12/02/2017]
Why it's essential: You have to put a genre label on albums even if they're not exactly accurate. Wrong is an album that doesn't really have any peer as far as I'm concerned when it comes to the fusion of punk, metal, and whatever jazz or math tendencies come up in certain spots on the album. Sorry for the blue humor, but it blasts my nuts off everytime I listen to it. [First added to this chart: 12/02/2017]
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1989
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1,274
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Top Tracks: Here Come The Rome Plows, Do You Compute?, Golden Brown, Luau, Sinews
Why it's essential: Because John Reis and Rick Froberg do unspeakable things to their guitars on this album. Seriously face-melting riffs pummel the listener track after track until they're a puddle of viscera on the floor. Also the first time any of the albums has the word "emo" attached to it, which we'll talk about a little further down the road. [First added to this chart: 12/02/2017]
Why it's essential: Because John Reis and Rick Froberg do unspeakable things to their guitars on this album. Seriously face-melting riffs pummel the listener track after track until they're a puddle of viscera on the floor. Also the first time any of the albums has the word "emo" attached to it, which we'll talk about a little further down the road. [First added to this chart: 12/02/2017]
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1994
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1,039
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Top Tracks: A Brief Conversation Ending In Divorce, Con Art, DC Will Do That To You, Bullfighter, Tight Frame Loose Frame, A Good Day
Why it's essential: Because there needs to be a Dischord release from the 90s on the list besides Fugazi, and "Con Art" is certainly the most unique of the lesser known albums on the level. (Although honorable mention Hoover is great as well.) This album gets a little better every time I listen to it, so I'm going to keep stanning for the post hardcore cello riffs that are on this album. [First added to this chart: 07/16/2020]
Why it's essential: Because there needs to be a Dischord release from the 90s on the list besides Fugazi, and "Con Art" is certainly the most unique of the lesser known albums on the level. (Although honorable mention Hoover is great as well.) This album gets a little better every time I listen to it, so I'm going to keep stanning for the post hardcore cello riffs that are on this album. [First added to this chart: 07/16/2020]
Top Tracks: Worms of the Senses / Faculties of the Skull, The Deadly Rhythm, Summerholidays vs. Punkroutine, New Noise, Refused Are Fuckin' Dead, The Shape of Punk To Come
Why it's essential: A group of Swedish anarchists take a lot of the great elements from hardcore bands of the past (some Nomeansno and Drive Like Jehu for sure) and expand upon those musical elements to great effect. A decidedly unpunk thing is to compare yourself to Ornette Coleman, but I think Refused kind of deliver on the comparison though, because not many punk albums have come close to it since. [First added to this chart: 12/02/2017]
Why it's essential: A group of Swedish anarchists take a lot of the great elements from hardcore bands of the past (some Nomeansno and Drive Like Jehu for sure) and expand upon those musical elements to great effect. A decidedly unpunk thing is to compare yourself to Ornette Coleman, but I think Refused kind of deliver on the comparison though, because not many punk albums have come close to it since. [First added to this chart: 12/02/2017]
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1998
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1,805
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Top Tracks: Cashout, Full Disclosure, Life and Limb, Ex-Spectator, Nightshop
Why it's essential: I could redo this list and just put everything that Ian Mackaye and Guy Picciotto have been a part of, but that wouldn't be fair. Fugazi is probably a top 10 artist all time for me, and they never really did much wrong. The Argument sees them at the peak of their respective powers, producing soically-conscious lyrics and complex and varied instrumentals over 10 incredible tracks. I've listened to it dozens of times, and it never gets old. [First added to this chart: 07/16/2020]
Why it's essential: I could redo this list and just put everything that Ian Mackaye and Guy Picciotto have been a part of, but that wouldn't be fair. Fugazi is probably a top 10 artist all time for me, and they never really did much wrong. The Argument sees them at the peak of their respective powers, producing soically-conscious lyrics and complex and varied instrumentals over 10 incredible tracks. I've listened to it dozens of times, and it never gets old. [First added to this chart: 07/16/2020]
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2001
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1,166
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Top Tracks: Burn Piano Island Burn, Ambulance vs. Ambulance, Cecilia And The Silhouette Saloon, Six Nightmares At The Pinball Masquerade, The Shame
Why it's essential: I don't know how the vocalist could even record this album, let alone tour for it. This spot could've also gone to honorable mention Fall of Troy. Some kind of screamo-inspired album needs to be on the list, because screamo is in the orbit of the Post-Hardcore offshoots. It's tough album to listen to all at once, but these guys didn't pull any punches, and this is music that oozes emo-catharsis. (But not as much as the next album.) [First added to this chart: 12/02/2017]
Why it's essential: I don't know how the vocalist could even record this album, let alone tour for it. This spot could've also gone to honorable mention Fall of Troy. Some kind of screamo-inspired album needs to be on the list, because screamo is in the orbit of the Post-Hardcore offshoots. It's tough album to listen to all at once, but these guys didn't pull any punches, and this is music that oozes emo-catharsis. (But not as much as the next album.) [First added to this chart: 12/02/2017]
Top Tracks: Art Is Hard, The Recluse, Driftwood A Fairy Tale, Bloody Murderer, Staying Alive
Why it's essential: From Henry Rollins performance poetry, post-hardcore has become full-blown theatrical at this point. Cursive is one of the best Emo bands out there, and this album is one of the high watermarks of the genre. Tasteful baroque orchestration backs a lot of the cathartic vocals on the album that creates a unique sound that still sounds good today. Not much else to say, it's a great one. [First added to this chart: 07/16/2020]
Why it's essential: From Henry Rollins performance poetry, post-hardcore has become full-blown theatrical at this point. Cursive is one of the best Emo bands out there, and this album is one of the high watermarks of the genre. Tasteful baroque orchestration backs a lot of the cathartic vocals on the album that creates a unique sound that still sounds good today. Not much else to say, it's a great one. [First added to this chart: 07/16/2020]
Top Tracks: I like most of this album.
Why it's essential: OK, anybody who knows this album knows what the first thing I'm going to say about it is. THOSE FUCKING DRUMS! And, as a drummer, I'm still floored by the octopus-man behind the kit. Anyways, I don't have any explicitly math rock albums on here except for maybe Yank Crime, and this album isn't explicitly math rock either, but it's progressive tendencies certainly verge pretty close, and the ludicrous drumming fit the bill. Got to cover all the bases you know. [First added to this chart: 07/16/2020]
Why it's essential: OK, anybody who knows this album knows what the first thing I'm going to say about it is. THOSE FUCKING DRUMS! And, as a drummer, I'm still floored by the octopus-man behind the kit. Anyways, I don't have any explicitly math rock albums on here except for maybe Yank Crime, and this album isn't explicitly math rock either, but it's progressive tendencies certainly verge pretty close, and the ludicrous drumming fit the bill. Got to cover all the bases you know. [First added to this chart: 07/16/2020]
Total albums: 12. Page 1 of 2
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Rocka's Subgenre Essentials: Post-Hardcore composition
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| 1940s | 0 | 0% | |
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| 1980s | 3 | 25% | |
| 1990s | 4 | 33% | |
| 2000s | 5 | 42% | |
| 2010s | 0 | 0% | |
| 2020s | 0 | 0% |
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| Black Flag | 1 | 8% | |
| The Fall Of Troy | 1 | 8% | |
| Hüsker Dü | 1 | 8% | |
| NoMeansNo | 1 | 8% | |
| Drive Like Jehu | 1 | 8% | |
| Smart Went Crazy | 1 | 8% | |
| Refused | 1 | 8% | |
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Big Black will go on my Noise Rock chart :)
Touche Amore is a good band, and I haven't listened to that in awhile. I'll have to give that a listen again.
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