Chart study #4: secretdad - Music - Forums : Best Ever Albums

sp4cetiger

For my next chart study, I’ll be doing secretdad:

The 100 Greatest Music Albums by secretdad

This will be an interesting test case, since I started knowing next to nothing about either the user or most of the music on their chart. Fortunately, secretdad has an intro post prepared for us...

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Gender: Female
Age: 38

Hi everybody! So this is a constant work in progress, I'm currently building up my decade/year lists, because I have some biases towards the albums I've heard from the 2000's, a little bit of nostalgic overvaluation going on. So I'm working on tweaking that. But yeah, I've got notes on a solid chunk of this (I stop around the 40's mostly although a couple of deeper ones get some explanation) that should mostly explain where I'm coming from with all of this, and some attempt at genre classification for everything, tho I'm bad at that. There's a lot of stuff on here that I had to add myself or stuff I'm not sure if many people checked out so to save you some googling, here's some youtubes for some of the more obscure picks. Naturally I'd never expect anyone to go through checking out all of these, but just in case any here piqued your interest.

1. Fenn O'Berg - this is my favorite song of all time, but it's 14 minutes so be warned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8g33lRvxww
2. Jacques Lejeune - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwvVcN7q67I
4. Wobbly - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-3IVZiMLHE
6. Max Tundra - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHNOC-NANCo
9. Terry Riley - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh4Bu6_7XtM
10. Rashad Becker - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dfgkbey6F0
11. Josef Anton Riedl - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWy6CxRywUE
13. Pierre Henry - futuristie tracks get blocked immediately when I try to put them on youtube but if you're curious to hear this one, pm me.
15. Iannis Xenakis - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-m3Tm25CZg
16. Ben Vida - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI0qsG0jAUI
21. Hrvatski - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyDvGBJ1v5I
30. Bruce Haack - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR0jr7bs9Bk
35. Bee Mask - https://soundcloud.com/bee_mask/moon-shadow-move-1
38. Kemialliset Ystavat - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NILMAV6u9IE
39. o9 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4HPzTuy6L8
41. Jamie Lidell - no one seems to recognize that he made a really weird electronic album first, they don't even show it on spotify https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckhXmACdeuE
45. Team Doyobi - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJvaOBlbv0Y
48. The OhSees - I know people are all over this band but people don't recognize this album enough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdAuwWouP_Q
52. Micachu - again probably known, but should be way way way more known https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6pSU7ug0JE
54. Dariush Dolat-Shahi - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYkP5rdnwLE
55. Ivo Malec - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-_OEjLi_kA
56. Tom Dissevelt & Kid Baltan - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVl2_MSwmSA
57. Leafcutter John - they only have the last track of this on youtube so just go check track 9 on spotify if you're curious
58. Dat Politics - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U03SKtQc7mI
60. Nettle - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHtoFRVfXcM
61. Catherine Ribeiro + 2 Bis - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBED-sUo1lU
65. Oskar Sala - don't think there's anything on youtube, I actually don't think the good rip of this is even on the private torrent sites or anything so pm me if you're curious.
66. Fog - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo8HIsFsV4w
70. New Sound of Numbers - https://thenewsoundofnumbers.bandcamp.c...-september
76. Bernard Parmegiani - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge19MFsGOEo
77. OOIOO - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akyOdVk8Jfo
78. Jan Jelinek - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4HdDBDRjnk
80. Franco Battiato - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4MjIsfVxjA
81. Datach'i - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPRtvgtD3QQ
82. Tod Dockstader - pm me
84. Pita - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_lnXaMflSA
85. Casino Versus Japan - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4wV9q3qkQ
86. Heins Hoffman Richter - only thing on youtube is this excerpt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lBJdhPluwY
91. Hecker - not to be confused with tim hecker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx_Zh2NoeYY
93. Bogdan Raczynski - https://soundcloud.com/bogdan-raczynski...ing-of-you
96. Ruth White - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ba4-nurH9Y
97. KHA-YM - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XTBjg-aB78
99. Wagon Christ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXRCq7ubgRA
100. Glen Velez - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm0OBjc-_AM

So yeah, I'm down to talk about whatever with this chart, hit me up with some Q's.

Also willing to give tailored recommendations to give an easier feeling of access to the chart (which should really be incorporated into the list properly). For instance, the New Sound of Numbers is an elephant 6 affiliate, so if you like olivia tremor control or any of those dudes, check that one out.

Mercury
Turn your back on the pay-you-back last call

Gender: Male
Location: St. Louis

This chart gives me a mild musical chub-chub. Just saying. It's that unique and interesting and I have no idea why or how I haven't delved into this already. I never thought to check out this new guy secret dad's chart. I was half expecting a bunch of Oasis and U2 and Beatles. (Not that's there's anything wrong with that). I was shocked.

Anyway, besides the enthusiastic praise and creepy erection comment, I have nothing else for now. I should be back with a question later on. Peace, bro.
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ONLY 4% of people can understand this chart! Come try!

My Fave Metal - you won't believe #5!!!

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Gender: Female
Age: 38

Oh hey thanks! And yeah I see nothing wrong with those bands being favorites, basically everyone who's gotten success in music I feel like they've earned it. And I like songs and albums from those bands and plenty of others who are familiar to these lists. Like I'm a big fan of the podcast You Talkin U2 To Me and it's given me a greater appreciation for the band, like how Mysterious Ways (I think that's the one) is so good at capturing that sort of 90s electronic rock sound that you got from bands like.... what was it, Erasure? I dunno. The musical landscape is so huge and varied and amazing, but there's a couple pockets that I've really fallen head over heels for and this chart is basically my attempt at capturing some of it.

satiemaniac

I'll start with a lowball question: how do you feel about Dan Snaith's music that's been released since he dropped the Manitoba moniker for Caribou? In my mind, the album on your chart is the high point of his career and I find the rest kind of disposable, but I'm interested in your thoughts, since it ranks among your favorites of all time.

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I really like the stuff after, I'd probably rank everything except Our Love above Stop Breaking My Heart, and Stop Breaking My Heart is a really solid IDM album. I wasn't really into Our Love, or the dancey side project thing. But After Hours off of Andorra? That's a total jam. And that album probably gets the worst rap. But what puts Up In Flames over the top is the weird tonal coloring all over the album. Like the other ones, I feel like with academics in music, there can be this thing where albums feel like a sort of study of an existing aesthetic, refined with a bit of idiosyncrasy but still feeling very much a part of history. But while Up In Flames has that connection to 60's psych pop rock type of stuff, there's something really alien in how everything sits in the mix, there's a connection to history but the final product just feels like this amazing singular object. And the tracks with Koushik's vocals really force it into a place where it makes sense, like it all feels so perfectly suited for the peculiarities of his voice, even more than his (still pretty great) solo work. So yeah I do actually like most of that other stuff but Up In Flames just gets on a whole other level for me. But like even the tour eps that came out for the later albums have stuff I really love. Medium Sized Working Dog is so good, going to listen to that now. Also what's really cool about those tour ep's is they start off with a short mix, and one of em introduced me to the Le Orme song that I guess the song that plays before the Oceans 11 credits samples and the real thing is so good that they actually play it twice in the song. Like the song itself is played twice within the song.

AND HOLY CRAP YOU GUYS. I just figured out that on the 2007 tour ep, the track Yo-Yo samples Pierre Henry - Levitation, off of one of his cortical art albums, where he had all this stuff strapped to his head and controlled synthesizers with his brain. Really cool stuff and really interesting to see it get sampled.

benpaco
Who's gonna watch you die?

Age: 27
Location: California

Kind of love the selection of a lesser known chart. I'm gonna ask a sort of random one just because I appreciate how little of this chart I know. But how do you find all this? Huge mix of countries, genres, etc., what's the secret?
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Age: 38

benpaco wrote:

Kind of love the selection of a lesser known chart. I'm gonna ask a sort of random one just because I appreciate how little of this chart I know. But how do you find all this? Huge mix of countries, genres, etc., what's the secret?

Hmm well a big factor for that is probably my affinity for experimental electronic music. A lot of the early stuff, the USA didn't really support it, and there's a lot of countries in Europe, and there was support all over the place there, so a whole bunch of cool stuff came out from a whole bunch of different countries. And then with the more modern stuff, I've been really into the output of Editions Mego (based in Austria) and PAN (based in Germany), and so a lot of the artists I hear from there are from that neck of the woods usually (although the USA is also very strong in that department now though with Keith Fullerton Whitman, Ben Vida, Raglani, Bee Mask, etc etc).

As far as hearing about stuff, it's all just stuff I've picked up over the years. I still check Pitchfork (Marc Masters is good about bringing attention to some of the weirder noisier things), but I find myself agreeing with Tiny Mix Tapes a lot more often (although I really feel like they undersold the new Arca album). And then for the weirder stuff, Brainwashed is something I don't check all the time anymore, but I did a little bit back in the day and they've tipped me off to some really great things. I've probably found out more from Keith Fullerton Whitman's store, Mimaroglu Music. He would always give amazingly detailed write ups on the noteworthy releases, and also has this bootleg reissue label that puts out rips of long out of print early electronic stuff. But then there's also the level of talking to people. I did most of my growing up in Alaska, so I kind of had to figure out how to get all of this done online. It all spooled out from Kid A from me, before that I was watching TRL and being like "aw man KoRn got robbed". But then I saw those crazy commercials with the bears that they did and bought OKC because Kid A wasn't out yet. From there I did whatever the equivalent to googling was at the time (altavistaing?) and saw some things where people were saying the new Radiohead sounded like Aphex Twin. And that sent me off looking into everything from Warp Records, and everything loosely affiliated with the label of IDM. I spent a lot of time in the soulseek chatrooms back in the day, because the way that started was on napster, the big IDM leaks of the time like Prefuse 73 - Uprock Studies + Vocal Narratives would be tagged with whatever the url to download soulseek was at the time. And so I'd dl those and be like "hey what's this about", and for a while it was all just one chatroom on the whole thing, all full of people brought there by their enjoyment of the stuff coming out on Warp Records. And so that was a really fun community, and I found out about a lot of music from those guys. But then there's also messageboards, I've been on a few and picked up quite a few things from people there, and turntable.fm (rip) or now plug.dj, I've found some good people on there, that's how I found out about Bruce Haack (he's Canadian and awesome). So it's been a mix of a laser focus on something I know I like trying to pick up everything around it to see if that's any good, and then mixing it up in some communities around those things I like and leaving myself open to exposure for things sitting outside of whatever path I'm taking, which then leads to new paths and a repetition of the process and more opportunities for weird discoveries.

sp4cetiger

My first question has nothing to do with the chart, actually. That username... are you actually a dad or is that a music reference I'm not getting? Laughing

philbutrin
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Location: liming town

secretdad wrote:

21. Hrvatski - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyDvGBJ1v5I
81. Datach'i - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPRtvgtD3QQ
84. Pita - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_lnXaMflSA
85. Casino Versus Japan - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4wV9q3qkQ
99. Wagon Christ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXRCq7ubgRA
100. Glen Velez - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm0OBjc-_AM

an interesting list that gave me some strong musical flashbacks to albums i haven't thought about in a while (those items i've quoted above). and it turns out that you are the only BEA member who included Datach'i's Mmale and Ffemale on a chart, while i'm the only member who included We Are Always Well Thank You Smile