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Schiele's Death and the Maiden (re)upgraded to 7.6/10. Also updated the (still very rough draft) analysis on this work (on his artist page) with some added points that I hadn't included yet the last time I posted about it.

Rosenquist's F-111 upgraded to 7.4 (Pop Art's masterpiece as regards painting?) ... may have to be yet higher than that (still thinking it over, evaluating, comparing, as I'm going through other 7.3s, 7.4s....). I also added images/links on the artist page. If anyone knows of a very up close excellent quality zoom in/out image available, or even just a very very large (zoom or not) image, please let me know. Without revisiting it at MOMA I would wish there to be such an image available for at home evaluation, revisitation. I did find a zoom image that I've included, but at least on my device, it gets quite pixelized as I get to a certain point of zooming into it as close as I'd like. Can anyone looking at this on their own device please let me know if the same happens to them (that way I know if it's a permanent zoom attribute of that image or if the quality improves with a better or different device). And again, if you find a better one, please post it so I can add it too.

Grunewald's Isenheim Altarpiece (re)upgraded to 7.6 (maybe 7.7-7.8...). Clearly among the peaks of Mannerism, a hesitation with putting it a little bit higher may be that the sculpted part (while fine) doesn't add to Grunewald's far superior painted artistry (and so -- if you'll forgive the nerdy exactitude -- some of its value per unit or percentage of space is mitigated and some momentum of impact when "reading" it as well). That said, Grunewald's painting is among the peaks of Mannerism, the Crucifixion among the most brutal, grotesque, emotional ever rendered, with the rest echoing the strange visions of Bosch while more figuratively suggestive and strangely physical, "theatrical", gesticular, "Mannerist", and it may deserve a higher rating even though the sculpted part is pretty much inessential, inconsequential relative to the rest.
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On my "Greatest Paintings" list...

Upgraded The Veiled Christ - Giuseppe Sanmartino (1753) from 7.4/10 to 7.6/10, perhaps the most miraculously charged (spiritually, transfiguring the stone) and intensely emotional sculpture of its day (and maybe since Michelangelo's Pieta some 250 years prior). Life sized sculpture of Jesus with perhaps the most technically astounding veil ever rendered (legitimately thought to be alchemy in its day) is not only astonishing in a purely technical way but emotively, ambiguously (in dualities) ties into the story of Jesus in remarkable ways. From the right of the sculpture (looking at it from that side) it seems to lean towards accentuating his pain more (the movement, the pressing, the sway and especially the upward, towards the head and with the head turned away in agony, the "struggled" flow of the material up against and upon his body, upon his wounds and wounded figure), while from his left side it takes on a more purely spiritual and poetic character, alluding more of his resurrection in that it seems lighter and even more translucent and doubles more as the spirit lifting up from off of the body (either side it has each of these dual expressive connotations, however each side seems to lean stronger in one way so that the character of the work sort of morphs and illuminates off his sculpted body as one looks it over up, down, side to side). Lighting upon the sculpture, chiaroscuro, as well, alters formidably, the character in either direction, and thus, Jesus seems to sort of "morph" and illuminate his power as he lay there "lifeless" before one. Meanwhile the crown and the other items of his passion are there to further symbolize his fate, his struggle, the absolution of sin, the sacrifice, the resurrection, while every detail down to the designs on the cloth, seems immaculate, spiritual, miraculously rendered, precious.

I also added to the images and links for this work, including adding a website which features very very HQ photography and video (on the artist page) that helps to demonstrate the above points.

Upgraded Portrait of the Bourgeoisie - David Alfaro Siqueiros (1939 - 1940) onto the "Greatest" list (from 7.2), now up to 7.4/10 ...this may seem like a new selection to some/many, but actually rated/ranked very highly (along with his Collective Suicide, now 6.8/10) on my list several years ago (Collective Suicide as high as 9.2, while if I recall correctly, I'm pretty sure I had Portrait of the Bourgeoisie as high as something like 8.8-8.9/10 back in the day).

This is an amazing work that fuses the technique (in paint) of photo (and cinematic) montage, expressionism, surrealism, cubism (in that it is both physically angled in varying directions (around and as a ceiling to its stairwell and landing) and the view morphs, changes, around the work, further emphasizing and "cinematically" enhancing the momentous force of the imagery which is also doing this with its juxtoposition and montage of figures/scenes inside the painting, but also the actual physical shift in spatial design of the work itself melds and forces the perspective with the viewing angle into different focal points, against its own parts and panels (the differing angles of its panels juxtapose and frame the action of the other, in relation to differing vantage points, melding or pitting one into or against the other as one moves past or looks over the work at different points). It's sort of Siqueiros' "Guernica", painted only a couple years after Picasso's masterpiece.

I also upgraded the images and links to this one, which if you don't mind me saying, I spent an almost embarassing amount of time persisting until I found what I deemed worthy (because, for whatever reason, good photos, video, links of this work are mostly difficult to come by).
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Greatest Paintings, Sculpture and Architecture list...

The Veiled Christ - Giuseppe Sanmartino (1753) / Cappella Sansevero, Naples, Italy [Sculpture] 7.4/10 to 7.6/10
Portrait of the Bourgeoisie - David Alfaro Siqueiros (1939 - 1940) / Mexican Electricians Union, Mexico City, Mexico [Painting] 7.2/10 to 7.3/10; 7.3/10 to 7.4/10; 7.4/10 to 7.5/10
Ghent Altarpiece - Jan van Eyck (1432) [Painting] 7.4/10 to 7.5/10
F-111 - James Rosenquist (1964 - 1965) / The Museum of Modern Art, New York , USA [Painting] 7.3/10 to 7.4/10
City - Michael Heizer (1970 - 2022) / Garden Valley, Nevada, USA [Land Art: Sculpture/Architecture] 7.5/10 to 7.4/10
Las Meninas - Diego Velazquez (1656) [Painting] 7.5/10 to 7.4/10
La Muralla Roja - Ricardo Bofill (1968 - 1973) / Calpe, Alicante, Spain [Architecture] 7.4/10 to 7.3/10
Grundtvig's Church - Peder Vilhelm Jensen-Klint (1940) / Copenhagen, Denmark [Architecture] 7.4/10 to 7.3/10
Laurentian Library - Michelangelo Buonarroti (Begun 1525, completed posthumously, 1571; Tribune of Elci rotunda added by Pasquale Poccianti in 1841) / Basilica di San Lorenzo di Firenze, Florence, Italy [Architecture] 7.4/10 to 7.3/10
The Taking of Christ - Michelangelo Caravaggio (circa 1602) [Painting] 7.3/10 to 7.1/10
Quadrofarius - Artem Ogurtsov (2012) [Painting] 7.3/10 to 7.0/10
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EXPLANATION: WHAT IS THIS LOG??? Go here: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...094#571094

For my criteria page, go here: http://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/vi...hp?t=15503

To visit my Main lists, go here:
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Greatest Works of Art: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...hp?t=16117

Various (in progress) genre lists, listed in order of how recently I've worked on them:
Greatest Literature: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...617#691617
Best Comedy Films and Best Romantic and/or Sx Comedies: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...446#684446
Best Teen and/or Coming of Age Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...219#683219
Best Gangster and/or Hood Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...513#682513
Best Action/Adventure and (Action/Adventure) Thriller Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...108#674108
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Best Horror Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...102#656102
Best Hip Hop/R & B/Soul/Funk Albums: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...323#650323
Best Animated Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...884#647884
Best Comic Book/Superhero Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...189#646189

Bold = Newly added
Bold + Italics = Was already listed but recently upgraded/downgraded

Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week(s): 7-7-25 - 7-20-25
Sistine Chapel Ceiling and The Last Judgment - Michelangelo Buonarroti (1508 - 1512; 1535 - 1541) / Sistine Chapel, Vatican City, Rome, Italy [Painting]
The Conversion of Saul and The Crucifixion of St. Peter - Michelangelo Buonarroti (circa 1542 - 1545; circa 1546 - 1550) / Pauline Chapel, Vatican City, Rome, Italy [Painting]
Death and the Maiden - Egon Schiele (1915) [Painting]
The Black Saint & The Sinner Lady - Charles Mingus (1963)
Neu! - Neu! (1971)
The Veiled Christ - Giuseppe Sanmartino (1753) / Cappella Sansevero, Naples, Italy [Sculpture]
The Starry Night - Vincent van Gogh (1889) [Painting]
Portrait of the Bourgeoisie - David Alfaro Siqueiros (1939 - 1940) / Mexican Electricians Union, Mexico City, Mexico [Painting]
St. Matthew Cycle: The Calling of St. Matthew; The Inspiration of St. Matthew; The Martyrdom of St. Matthew - Michelangelo Caravaggio (1599 - 1602) / San Luigi dei Francesi, Rome, Italy [Painting]
The Doors - The Doors (1966)
Return of the Prodigal Son - Rembrandt van Rijn (circa 1667 - 1669) / Hermitage Museum, Saint Petersburg, Russia [Painting]
F-111 - James Rosenquist (1964 - 1965) / The Museum of Modern Art, New York , USA [Painting]
Lucretia - Rembrandt van Rijn (1666) [Minneapolis Institute of Art Version] [Painting]
Cypresses - Vincent van Gogh (1889)
Isenheim Altarpiece - Matthias Grunewald (circa 1512 - 1516) [Painting: Matthias Grunewald / Sculpture: Nikolaus Hagenauer]
Spiderland - Slint (1991)
The Worship of the Golden Calf and The Last Judgment - Jacopo Tintoretto (1560 - 1563) / Madonna dell'Orto, Venice, Italy [Painting]
The Crucifixion - Jacopo Tintoretto (1565) / Scuola Grande di San Rocco, Venice, Italy [Painting]
Il Paradiso - Jacopo Tintoretto (assisted by son Domenico Tintoretto) (1588 - 1594) / Doge's Palace, Sala del Maggior Consiglio, Venice, Italy [Painting]
View of Toledo - El Greco (1599) [Painting]
Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grande Jatte - Georges Seurat (1886) [Painting]
Christ's Entry into Brussels in 1889 - James Ensor (1888) [Painting]
Legend of the True Cross - Piero della Francesca (1447 - 1466) / Basilica of San Francesco, Arezzo, Tuscany, Italy [Painting]
The Resurrection - Piero della Francesca (circa 1460) [Painting]
Ghent Altarpiece - Jan van Eyck (1432) [Painting]
The Descent from the Cross - Rogier van der Weyden (1435) [Painting]
Road with Cypress and Star - Vincent van Gogh (1890) [Painting]
Wheat Field With Cypresses - Vincent van Gogh (1889) [Painting]
Belshazzar's Feast - Rembrandt van Rijn (circa 1635 - 1638) / The National Gallery, London, England [Painting]
Sarajevo - Omar El-Nagdi (1992) [Painting]
The Death of Socrates - Jacques-Louis David (1787) [Painting]
The Entombment of Christ - Michelangelo Caravaggio (1603) [Painting]
The Scroll - Shahzia Sikander (1990)
The Taking of Christ - Michelangelo Caravaggio (circa 1602) [Painting]
Quadrofarius - Artem Ogurtsov (2012) [Painting]

Top 10+ Albums/Movies/Visual Art for the Week(s) - Rated 6.7/10 or Below

Top 10+ SONGS/TRACKS for the Week(s)

FAMILIAR ROCK/JAZZ ALBUMS - RE-RATED:
The Black Saint & The Sinner Lady - Charles Mingus (1963) 9.0/10 to 9.1/10

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FAMILIAR PAINTINGS/VISUAL ART - RE-RATED:
St. Matthew Cycle: The Calling of St. Matthew; The Inspiration of St. Matthew; The Martyrdom of St. Matthew - Michelangelo Caravaggio (1599 - 1602) / San Luigi dei Francesi, Rome, Italy [Painting] 7.5/10 to 7.6/10
Legend of the True Cross - Piero della Francesca (1447 - 1466) / Basilica of San Francesco, Arezzo, Tuscany, Italy [Painting] 7.0/10 to 7.5/10
The Worship of the Golden Calf and The Last Judgment - Jacopo Tintoretto (1560 - 1563) / Madonna dell'Orto, Venice, Italy [Painting] Not Rated to 7.5/10
The Crucifixion - Jacopo Tintoretto (1565) / Scuola Grande di San Rocco, Venice, Italy [Painting] 7.3/10 to 7.4/10
Il Paradiso - Jacopo Tintoretto (assisted by son Domenico Tintoretto) (1588 - 1594) / Doge's Palace, Sala del Maggior Consiglio, Venice, Italy [Painting] Not Rated to 7.3/10

SEVERAL ADDITIONAL UNLISTED RATINGS RECENTLY UPDATED/ADDED -- SEE PREVIOUS POSTS IN BETWEEN THIS AND THE LAST LOG, WHERE I DESCRIBE THESE UPDATES

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TOP 50 WORKS OF ART OF THE YEAR (2024 and 2025)
Sistine Chapel: Ceiling and The Last Judgment - Michelangelo Buonarroti (1512; 1541)
Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt (1974)
Piano Sonata No. 21 in B-flat Major - Franz Schubert (1828)
Pauline Chapel: The Conversion of Saul and The Crucifixion of St. Peter - Michelangelo Buonarroti (1545; 1550)
The Doors - The Doors (1966)
A Love Supreme - John Coltrane (1964)
The Velvet Underground and Nico - The Velvet Underground (1966)
Angkor Wat - Started by Suryavarman II; Completed by Jayavarman VII (circa 1122 - 1150; Note: there are various anomalies that may suggest an earlier date of construction -- perhaps even much earlier) [Architecture]
Guernica - Pablo Picasso (1937)
Are You Experienced? - Jimi Hendrix (1967)
Desertshore - Nico (1970)
Spiderland - Slint (1991)
Vertigo - Alfred Hitchcock (1958)
Alhambra - Muhammad I Ibn al-Ahmar; later additions overseen by Yusuf I and Muhammad V - Granada, Spain (initial structure: 1250; several alterations thereafter through the 1600s) [Architecture]
Kailasa Temple - King Krishna I (circa 773) [Architecture and Sculpture]
Piano Sonata No. 20 in A Major - Franz Schubert (1828)
Pieta - Michelangelo Buonarroti (1499) [Sculpture]
La Fabrica - Ricardo Bofill (1973 - 2022) / Sant Just Desvern, Catalonia, Spain [Architecture]
Golden Gate Bridge - Joseph Strauss - San Francisco, California (1937) [Architecture]
Sainte-Chapelle - Jean de Chelles or Thomas de Cormont (1248) / Paris, France [Architecture]
David - Michelangelo Buonarroti (1504) [Sculpture]
The Beethoven Frieze - Gustav Klimt (1902)
Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables - Dead Kennedy's (1980)
The Triumph of Death - Pieter Bruegel the Elder (circa 1562) / Museo del Prado, Madrid, Spain [Painting]
Borobudur - Gunadharma (circa 842?) [Architecture]
Bringing it all Back Home - Bob Dylan (1965)
Thriller - Michael Jackson (1982)
Florence Cathedral - Arnolfo di Cambio (1294-1302); Giotto (Bell Tower: 1334-1337); Filippo Brunelleschi (Dome: 1420-1436) (Completed 1436; Emilio De Fabris, Marble Facade: 1887) [Architecture]
In the Aeroplane Over the Sea - Neutral Milk Hotel (1997)
Metamorphose de Narcisse - Salvador Dali (1937) / Tate Modern, London, England [Painting]
Imam Mosque - Ali Akbar Isfahani (1611 - 1629) [aka, Shah Mosque] / Naqsh-e Jahan Square, Esfahan, Isfahan Province, Iran [Architecture]
Mont-Saint-Michel Abbey - William of Volpiano (1060-1523) / Manche, Normandy, France [Architecture]
The Seven Heavenly Palaces 2004-2015 - Anselm Kiefer (2004 - 2015) / Pirelli HangarBicocca, Milan, Italy [Art Installation, Sculpture, Painting]
Lloyd's Building - Richard Rogers (1986) / London, England [Architecture]
The Ecstasy of Saint Teresa - Gian Lorenzo Bernini (1652) [Sculpture, Architecture and Painting]
Stata Center - Frank Gehry (2001 - 2004) / Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA [Architecture]
Cleveland Clinic Lou Ruvo Center for Brain Health - Frank Gehry (2007 - 2010) / Las Vegas, Nevada, USA [Architecture]
Saint-Nicolas Church - Walter Maria Förderer (1971) / Heremence, Switzerland [Architecture]
Europe After The Rain II - Max Ernst (1942)
Taj Mahal - Ustad Ahmad Lahauri (1653) [Architecture]
Medici Chapel: The Sagrestia Nuova - Michelangelo Buonarroti (1555) [Sculpture and Architecture]
Potala Palace - Lozano Gyatso (5th Dalai Llama; 1694)
Lady of the Mirrors - Anthony Davis (1980)
Guggenheim Museum - Frank Gehry (1991 - 1997) / Abando, Bilbao, Spain [Architecture]
Tower of Babel - Pieter Bruegel the Elder (1563) [Vienna Version] [Painting]
Grundtvig's Church - Peder Vilhelm Jensen-Klint (1940) [Architecture]
Geghard Monastery - Gregory the Illuminator (4th Century) / Kotayk Province, Armenia [Architecture/Sculpture]
The Last Judgment - Hieronymus Bosch (after 1482; probably circa 1500 - 1503) / Academy of Fine Arts, Vienna, Austria [Painting]
Fall of the Angel - Anselm Kiefer (2022 - 2023) [Painting]
Early Bourgeois Revolution in Germany - Werner Tubke (1976 - 1987) [aka, "Peasants' War Panorama"] / Panorama Museum, Bad Frankenhausen, Thuringia, Germany [Painting]
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Misc updates...

I revisited Piero della Francesca's Legend of the True Cross, upgrading it (back to) 7.5/10, and his Resurrection. For both, I've added additional, HQ and informative, images and links on his artist page.

I added several images for Michelangelo's Pauline Chapel set: Conversion of Saul and Crucifixion of St Peter (to his artist page). These feature now several up close images of his painting and disegno and serve to further illustrate points I've detailed in my (still sloppy, needs editing) analysis of this work (very misunderstood, only a few art historians have truly tackled it properly). Most importantly these images show give several examples of just how much the light reflection plays with each work. These are important to also look at even though the virtual tour offers the most ideal, yet "democratic" view of both works -- meaning this is photography of the least obfuscated and most generous light across each. The additional images add further perspective from which parts of the analysis derives and discusses. For the Conversion of Saul, these further emphasize the "dissonance", the visual impairment or "obfuscation"; the sheer dissonance of color, of bodies, of disegno, interlocked, distorted, and close ups of the "forced torsion" of the figures, of the tumultuous and the shattered yet also rigid sense of line, of shattered and visionary and dreamy and elipsis of color (virtually expressionist), of the bodies interlocked or splayed from each other, etc. For Crucifixion of St Peter these up close views further illuminate both the effects of light but also the points about how the figures are "dialects" between Michelangelo's now pessimistic, naive, even "infantile" figurative drawing and expression of form and (almost garish) color "infantile" or futile gestures, "senile" or burdened or listless or empty dispositions, awkward "senile" clothing, and the decrepit old age (of others or the same figures) and/or the grotesque disposition/characterization of some of the more "troll-like" figures (all of this Michelangelo's inner dialogue about old age, mortality, the accumulated pain of his life, failures, his friends dying off, and so on, as described in rough draft form, along with a simultaneity of considerations and meanings, in the analysis).

I upgraded Tintoretto's Crucifixion (back to) 7.4/10 (from 7.3). Also added the best images, links, videos that show the work, that I've found. This one has been tough in part because there are so many "Crucifixions", peaking in consistency, skill, artistry between the Renaissance and Baroque, that it tends to get hard to single out the best ones, and even among those, the subtle differentiation in rating between them (for instance perhaps, Rubens Elevation to the Cross maybe 6.8, his Descent perhaps 7.2, Tintoretto's best Crucifixion (this one) perhaps 7.4, Van Der Weyden's Descent probably 7.4 (then you have Michelangelo's "Pieta" sculptures that each take on the theme, or aftermath, in their own ways ... then you have something like the brutal and grotesque, visionary and "Manneristic" figurations of the Crucifixion from Grunewald's Isenheim, or Dali's Crucifixion that reinvents the subgenre at around 7.8, 7.9... but actually "concluding" these (or making a serious attempt to) takes a willingness to really look over them, analyze, compare back and forth, grasp of the artistic singularities of each, and so on...). Any 7.3 has to be pretty extraordinary and naturally this "extraordinariness" (usually) gets harder and harder to realize (for the artist) or even to recognize (for the viewer/analyst) if one is taking up a theme or emotional area that has already been taken up (because it won't stand out so much, and won't seem the "artists own" as much, if it was already done by another, especially if equally or more successfully, which also means with more conviction, emotion, creativity, and so on...).
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I added several images for Michelangelo's Pauline Chapel set: Conversion of Saul and Crucifixion of St Peter (to his artist page). These feature now several up close images of his painting and disegno and serve to further illustrate points I've detailed in my (still sloppy, needs editing) analysis of this work (very misunderstood, only a few art historians have truly tackled it properly). Most importantly these images show give several examples of just how much the light reflection plays with each work. These are important to also look at even though the virtual tour offers the most ideal, yet "democratic" view of both works -- meaning this is photography of the least obfuscated and most generous light across each. The additional images add further perspective from which parts of the analysis derives and discusses. For the Conversion of Saul, these further emphasize the "dissonance", the visual impairment or "obfuscation"; the sheer dissonance of color, of bodies, of disegno, interlocked, distorted, and close ups of the "forced torsion" of the figures, of the tumultuous and the shattered yet also rigid sense of line, of shattered and visionary and dreamy and elipsis of color (virtually expressionist), of the bodies interlocked or splayed from each other, etc. For Crucifixion of St Peter these up close views further illuminate both the effects of light but also the points about how the figures are "dialects" between Michelangelo's now pessimistic, naive, even "infantile" figurative drawing and expression of form and (almost garish) color "infantile" or futile gestures, "senile" or burdened or listless or empty dispositions, awkward "senile" clothing, and the decrepit old age (of others or the same figures) and/or the grotesque disposition/characterization of some of the more "troll-like" figures (all of this Michelangelo's inner dialogue about old age, mortality, the accumulated pain of his life, failures, his friends dying off, and so on, as described in rough draft form, along with a simultaneity of considerations and meanings, in the analysis).


In case you were wondering (and you know you are!!! Laughing ) YES some percentage of that "dissonance" of his Conversion is due to some wear and tear on the paint, upon the disegno, but is largely also Michelangelo's later style (alluded to in the Last Judgment just prior) but here he reaches a peak in what might be called "disillusion and pain perplexed by and ambiguously embodied in a transfiguration to deep spirituality and through a virtually evangelical, transcendental art" and really is another form of his increasing development towards the "non-finito" here applied in paint, whereas it would largely become a development he would make in sculpting -- he was essentially not so much a "painterly" painter, and certainly more "disegno" than "colorito", but is most easily understood, technically and formally (and besides the overwhelming and unique compositional and symbolic, poetic genius, what separates him from others...) is he was basically not so much "painting" but rather "sculpting with paint".

Anyway, yes, some of that "dissonance" is some "unintended non-finito" and "obfuscation" from a degree of wear and tear. But in case you doubt the leanings towards expressionism and a visual obfuscation and in color what is both tumult and a sort of deeply poetic transcendental beauty, all you need to do is compare it in a similar degree of light shone upon them, with the Crucifixion of Peter, which features none of the sort of visual effects, which had a separate aim including more visual and formal clarity, and its contemporary and thus features basically, probably less "wear and tear" but comparable enough to illustrate the large difference.

(note the light shone upon them is noticeably still slightly more in these with the Conversion, plus the conservation of it was also not as fine in qualitative sustainability due to various factors (such as salt deposits and what-not) ... nevertheless the expressionistic difference is too dramatic and obvious between them, making it clear that these elements were a minor or partial, not THE factor in the difference in visual style, tumult, "expressionism" between them ... also looking over the details of each up close, provided on the artist page, further clarifies...)

Conversion of Saul:
https://media.patronsvaticanmuseums.org...9dc6f.jpeg

Crucifixion of St Peter:
https://media.patronsvaticanmuseums.org...9dc6f.jpeg
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Working on adding works to both Tintoretto's and Titian's page, more or less simultaneously.

I added two more 7.3+ works of Tintoretto including images and links, onto his artist page and the "Greatest" page.

I added a 7.3+ of Titian (Pieta, may be higher) plus rated some other famous ones on his page (like the Venus of Urbino, Assumption of the Virgin). Still lots to add sooner or later (from his early career, mid career and late career) as he never really had a dip where he wasn't churning out excellent works. I am mid determining the rating for his Poesies series (a series of 6 mythological paintings; some argue a 7th from his late period should be added but I don't think I'll do that unless someone convinces me otherwise...), which I've only posted a photo of on his page thus far. Pretty sure I'll rate it all as "one", but may change my mind. Titian's ratings may yet be pretty volatile (very open to change), so they're absolutely not "final". Tintoretto's may or may not be but are probably somewhat more reliable than Titian right now.

I also revisited Michelangelo's Pauline Chapel Saul and St Peter duo and may upgrade the rating again.

I may also upgrade the Sistine to 11.0/10 (just kidding on that one Liar Laughing )

Still want to get to updating a bunch of El Greco, and others, along with these...
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Various ratings updates...

Re: Rock/Jazz

Upgraded Black Saint and the Sinner Lady to 9.1, now in an extra tight "battle" with A Love Supreme (as has been the case going back years). Like I alluded to some months back (when I re-upgraded A Love Supreme) both may be pushing as high as 9.2 or even (a slight chance of) 9.3/10 like they once were. Very very tough call which is "better", currently I am giving the very slight edge to Mingus.

Neu! got a slight upgrade (same rating, higher position) to the "highest" 8.8 which also may mean it could be 8.9 or even as high as 9.0. Probably will get a couple more revisits in the near future to double check.

Re: Paintings...

As promised, I am making my way (rather slowly, carefully) back through Caravaggio (while also other artists). And I've upgraded his St Matthew Cycle (or re-upgraded) to 7.6 (from 7.5), his Death of the Virgin to 7.1, Supper at Emaus to 7.2 (each from 7.0). I am still mid going back through the main works of his career and polishing up by evaluations, so these are still subject to change and may still be too low in the final analysis. I do expect to add some more works to his artist page with ratings -- how many I'll go with, I'm not sure. His works are always more complex, deft, intricate, deep, meaningful, than they seem like they will be at first, and he is also an artist I continually have to remind myself of those work's merits after returning to them even after I've already analyzed them. This probably has something to do with many of his works sharing a similar tone and color palette, and even in several cases, symbology passing from one to the other. And there are usually several "hidden" meanings, deftly placed, alluded to in his composition and in the deft placement of darkness/light (casts a shadow on or deftly illuminates certain symbols, meanings, and so on).

I'm also looking back over some key Raphael works (already double checked Transfiguration, maintaining its 7.5) because I haven't paid him enough attention recently, also because I have wanted to re-view, re-evaluate his Stanze della Segnatura because I find myself wondering if I've left its rating too low and maybe I'm (somewhat) under-appreciating him in general, this probably being his greatest achievement and potentially under-rated. So I'm mid going through extensive notes and analyses on it (the work is very complex, profound and intricate compositionally; every element matters) and hoping to draw a more certain conclusion soon... May also add some missing key works from his artist page and rate them...

Tintoretto, Titian, Pozzo, all still in progress... Revisiting and updating El Greco's page still on my radar... Michelangelo's Pauline Chapel still under review for a potential rating upgrade....
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