Them Or Us
by Frank Zappa
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Frank Zappa bestography
Them Or Us is ranked 31st best out of 125 albums by Frank Zappa on BestEverAlbums.com.
The best album by Frank Zappa is Hot Rats which is ranked number 240 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 6,555.
(N.B. Bestographies include all albums by an artist (and their variations), but do not include albums ranked outside the top 100,000).
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Them Or Us track list
The tracks on this album have an average rating of 77 out of 100 (all tracks have been rated).
Them Or Us rankings
Calculated from aggregate positions across 60,000 charts (2 million album rankings). Click to see how the rankings are calculated (Last updated: 7 hours ago)
| Year | Source | Chart | Rank | Rank Score |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2026 | TroutMaskGreg | Top 100 Music Albums of the 1980s | 30/100 | 14 |
| 2026 |  Purplepash | Top 49 Music Albums of 1984 | 24/49 | 3 |
| 2026 |  sssvnnn | Top 80 Music Albums of 1984 | 25/80 | 4 |
| 2026 |  Fischman | Top 100 Music Albums of 1984 | 58/100 | 2 |
| 2025 | mostlymor | Frank Zappa Chronological Order | 37/60 | - |
| 2025 | mostlymor | Top 100 Music Albums of 1984 | 84/100 | 1 |
| 2025 | TroutMaskGreg | Top 18 Music Albums of 1984 | 4/18 | 4 |
| 2024 | Fischman | Frank Zappa Albums Ranked | 35/82 | - |
| 2023 | TroutMaskGreg | Great Googly-Moogly - My Zappa Rankings | 15/44 | - |
| 2023 |  MW19704U | Top 100 Music Albums of 1984 | 73/100 | 1 |
| Total Charts: The total number of charts that this album has appeared in. | 21 | |||
| Total Rank Score: The total rank score. | 77 | |||
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Them Or Us ratings
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| Rating | Date updated | Member | Album ratings | Avg. album rating |
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| ! | 09/29/2026 14:44 | Chetwynd | 8 | 75/100 |
| ! | 01/03/2026 00:44 | daCritic | 4,649 | 73/100 |
| ! | 05/04/2025 21:19 | Reppu1976 | 1,244 | 86/100 |
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This album has a Bayesian average rating of 71.5/100, a mean average of 71.4/100, and a trimmed mean (excluding outliers) of 71.4/100. The standard deviation for this album is 12.5.
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An enjoyable Zappa album. Some great songs(yes, some nonsense too), especially, the closer you are, and the excellent guitar workouts of, Stevie's spanking(featuring Steve Vai), and the Allman brothers classic, whipping post. Entertaining album.
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