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EXPLANATION: WHAT IS THIS LOG??? Go here: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...094#571094

For my criteria page, go here: http://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/vi...hp?t=15503

To visit my Main lists, go here:
Greatest Classical Music Works: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...hp?t=15098
Greatest Albums (Rock & Jazz): https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...hp?t=15276
Greatest Songs/Tracks/Movements: https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/v...hp?t=15246
Greatest Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...hp?t=15558
Greatest Paintings: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...hp?t=15560
Greatest Works of Art: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...hp?t=16117

Various (in progress) genre lists, listed in order of how recently I've worked on them:
Greatest Literature: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...617#691617
Best Comedy Films and Best Romantic and/or Sx Comedies: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...446#684446
Best Teen and/or Coming of Age Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...219#683219
Best Gangster and/or Hood Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...513#682513
Best Action/Adventure and (Action/Adventure) Thriller Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...108#674108
Best Editing/Structure in Film History: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...443#667443
Best Visuals (Color) / Best Visuals (Black and White): https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...231#666231
Best Horror Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...102#656102
Best Hip Hop/R & B/Soul/Funk Albums: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...323#650323
Best Animated Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...884#647884
Best Comic Book/Superhero Films: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...189#646189

Bold = Newly added
Bold + Italics = Was already listed but recently upgraded/downgraded

Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week(s): 5-26-25 - 7-6-25
The Triumph of Death - Pieter Bruegel the Elder (circa 1562) / Museo del Prado, Madrid, Spain [Painting]
Metamorphose de Narcisse - Salvador Dali (1937) / Tate Modern, London, England
Imam Mosque - Ali Akbar Isfahani (1611 - 1629) [aka, Shah Mosque] / Naqsh-e Jahan Square, Esfahan, Isfahan Province, Iran [Architecture]
The Seven Heavenly Palaces 2004-2015 - Anselm Kiefer (2004 - 2015) / Pirelli HangarBicocca, Milan, Italy [Art Installation, Sculpture, Painting]
Tower of Babel - Pieter Bruegel the Elder (1563) [Vienna Version] [Painting]
The Last Judgment - Hieronymus Bosch (after 1482; probably circa 1500 - 1503) / Academy of Fine Arts, Vienna, Austria [Painting]
Fall of the Angel - Anselm Kiefer (2022 - 2023) [Painting]
Early Bourgeois Revolution in Germany - Werner Tubke (1976 - 1987) [aka, "Peasants' War Panorama"] / Panorama Museum, Bad Frankenhausen, Thuringia, Germany [Painting]
The Virgin - Gustav Klimt (1913) [Painting]
Philosophy, Medicine & Jurisprudence - Gustav Klimt (1899 - 1907) [University of Vienna Ceiling Paintings; Destroyed in 1945] [Painting]
The Persistence of Memory - Salvador Dali (1931) [Painting]
The Main Cathedral of the Russian Armed Forces - Mikhail Fayantsev (2018 - 2020) / Patriot Park, Kubinka, Odintsovsky District, Moscow Oblast, Russia [Architecture and Sculpture]
The Procession To Calvary - Pieter Bruegel the Elder (1564) / Kunsthistorisches Museum, Vienna, Austria [Painting]
Castle in the Pyrenees - Rene Magritte (1959) / Israel Museum, Jerusalem, Israel [Painting]
Virgin of the Rocks - Leonardo da Vinci (circa 1483-1486) [Painting]
Aschenblume - Anselm Kiefer (1983-97) / Modern Art Museum of Fort Worth, Fort Worth, Texas, USA [Painting]
Eiffel Tower - Stephen Sauvestre (1887 - 1889) / 7th arrondissement, Paris, France [Architecture]
The Sleeping Venus - Paul Delvaux (1944) [Painting]
Anatomy Lesson of Dr. Nicolaes Tulp - Rembrandt van Rijn (1632) [Painting]
Metropolis - George Grosz (1916 - 1917) / Museo Nacional Thyssen-Bornemisza, Madrid, Spain [Painting]
View of Toledo - El Greco (1599) [Painting]
Six Seasons Series - Pieter Bruegel the Elder (1565) / The Gloomy Day (Early Spring): Kunsthistorisches Museum, Vienna, Austria; Haymaking (Early Summer): Prague Castle, Prague, Czech Republic; The Harvesters (Late Summer): Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York, USA; The Return of the Herd (Autumn): Kunsthistorisches Museum, Vienna, Austria; Hunters in the Snow (Winter): Kunsthistorisches Museum, Vienna, Austria [note: series was originally planned and arranged together as a series in a single room; presently includes 5 out of the original 6 paintings; 1 (Late Spring) is lost] [Painting]
Crucifixion (Corpus Hypercubus) - Salvador Dali (1954) / Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York, USA [Painting]
Osiris and Isis - Anselm Kiefer (1985 - 1987) / San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, California, USA [Painting]
The Last Supper - Leonardo da Vinci (circa 1495 - 1498) / Santa Maria delle Grazie, Milan, Italy [Painting]
The Scream - Edvard Munch (1893) [Painting]
The Raft of the Medusa - Théodore Géricault (1819) [Painting]
Witches Sabbath (The Great He-Goat) - Francisco Goya (circa 1823) [Painting]
F-111 - James Rosenquist (1965) [Painting]
The War - Otto Dix (1929 - 1932) / Galerie Neue Meister, Dresden, Germany [Painting]
Laurentian Library - Michelangelo Buonarroti (Begun 1525, completed posthumously, 1571; Tribune of Elci rotunda added by Pasquale Poccianti in 1841) / Basilica di San Lorenzo di Firenze, Florence, Italy [Architecture]
Luzifer - Anselm Kiefer (2012 - 2023) [Painting]
Ash Flower - Anselm Kiefer (2004) [Painting]
Vietnam II - Leon Golub (1973) / Tate Modern, London, England, UK [Painting]
Wheat Field With Cypresses - Vincent van Gogh (1889) [Painting]
Composition VII - Wassily Kandinsky (1913) / Tretyakov Gallery, Moscow, Russia [Painting]
Group X, Altarpieces, Nos. 1-3 - Hilma af Klint (1915) [Painting]
The Human Condition - Rene Magritte (1933) [Painting]
The Reminiscences of Judge Schulze, Part II - Werner Tubke (1965) [Painting]
The Holy Trinity - Tommaso Masaccio (circa 1427)
Sistine Madonna - Raphael Sanzio (circa 1514)
Cathedral of Maringá - José Augusto Bellucci (1959 - 1972) / Maringá, Paraná, Brazil [Architecture]
Rain, Steam and Speed - The Great Western Railway - J.M.W. Turner (1844) [Painting]
Wheat Field With Cypresses - Vincent van Gogh (1889) [Painting]
Leon: The Professional - Luc Besson (1994) [Original Cut, 110 minutes; Extended Cut, 133 minutes: 7.4/10]
The False Mirror - Rene Magritte (1928) [Painting]
The Crucifixion - Jacopo Tintoretto (1565)
Les Espaces d'Abraxas - Ricardo Bofill (1978 - 1983) / Noisy-le-Grand, Paris, France [Architecture]
Basilica of the Sacred Heart - Albert Van Huffel (1919 - 1970) / Koekelberg, Brussels, Belgium [Architecture]
Pena National Palace - Wilhelm Ludwig von Eschwege (1842 - 1854) / Sintra, Portugal [Architecture]
Christ Cathedral - Philip Johnson and John Burgee (1977 - 1981; interior renovations in 2013) [previously "Crystal" Cathedral] / Garden Grove, California, USA [Architecture]
Triptych of the Adoration of the Magi - Hieronymus Bosch (circa 1494) / Museo del Prado, Madrid, Spain [Painting]
The Conversion of Saul - Pieter Bruegel the Elder (1567) / Kunsthistorisches Museum, Vienna, Austria [Painting]
The Seven Deadly Sins and the Four Last Things - Hieronymous Bosch; Attribution disputed (probably circa 1505 - 1510) / Museo del Prado, Madrid, Spain [Painting]
The Massacre of the Innocents - Pieter Bruegel the Elder (circa 1566 - 1567) / British Royal Collection, Windsor Castle, Royal County of Berkshire, England [Painting]
The Last Judgment - Hieronymous Bosch (after 1486; probably circa 1500) / Groeningemuseum, Bruges, Belgium [Painting]
Dulle Griet - Pieter Bruegel the Elder (1563) / Museum Mayer van den Bergh, Antwerp, Belgium [Painting]

Top 10+ Albums/Movies/Visual Art for the Week(s) - Rated 2.8/10 to 6.7/10
The Adoration of the Magi in the Snow - Pieter Bruegel the Elder (1563) / Am Römerholz, Winterthur, Switzerland [Painting]
The Fall of the Rebel Angels - Pieter Bruegel the Elder (1562) / Royal Museums of Fine Arts of Belgium, Brussels, Belgium [Painting]
The Census at Bethlehem - Pieter Bruegel the Elder (1566) / Oldmasters Museum, Brussels, Belgium [Painting]
Metropolis - Otto Dix (1927 - 1928) [Painting]
Hermit Saints Triptych - Hieronymus Bosch (circa 1493) / Gallerie dell'Accademia, Venice, Italy [Painting]
The Cannon - Otto Dix (1914) [Painting]
Self Portrait as Mars - Otto Dix (1915) [Painting]
The Suicide of Saul - Pieter Bruegel the Elder (1562) / Kunsthistorisches Museum, Vienna, Germany [Painting]
Tower of Babel - Pieter Bruegel the Elder (after 1563?) / Museum Boijmans Van Beuningen, Dijkzigt, Rotterdam, Netherlands [Painting]
Visions of the Hereafter Polyptych - Hieronymus Bosch (circa 1505 - 1515) / Museo di Palazzo Grimani, Venice, Italy [Painting]
Saint John the Baptist - Hieronymus Bosch (circa 1490 - 1495) / Museo Lázaro Galdiano, Madrid, Spain [Painting]
Christ Carrying the Cross - Hieronymus Bosch (circa 1495) [Originally, the left wing of a lost triptych] / Kunsthistorisches Museum, Vienna, Austria [Painting]
The Sermon of St. John the Baptist - Pieter Bruegel the Elder (1566) / Museum of Fine Arts, Budapest, Hungary [Painting]
Crucifixion of Saint Wilgefortis Triptych - Hieronymus Bosch (circa 1497) / Gallerie dell'Accademia, Venice, Italy [Painting]
St. Jerome at Prayer - Hieronymus Bosch (circa 1482) / Museum of Fine Arts, Ghent, Belgium [Painting]
Christ Carrying the Cross - Hieronymous Bosch (circa 1498) / Monastery of El Escorial, San Lorenzo de El Escorial, Spain [Painting]
Peasant Wedding - Pieter Bruegel the Elder (1567) / Kunsthistorisches Museum, Vienna, Austria [Painting]
Peasant Dance - Pieter Bruegel the Elder (circa 1568) / Kunsthistorisches Museum, Vienna, Austria [Painting]
Saint John the Evangelist at Patmos (circa 1489) [Painting] [This was probably originally part of an Altarpiece triptych though the rest is considered lost]
Crucifixion With a Donor - Hieronymus Bosch (circa 1480 - 1485) / Royal Museums of Fine Arts of Belgium, Brussels, Belgium [Painting]
The Peasant and the Birdnester - Pieter Bruegel the Elder (1568) / Kunsthistorisches Museum, Vienna, Austria [Painting]

Top 10+ SONGS/TRACKS for the Week(s)

FAMILIAR ROCK/JAZZ ALBUMS - RE-RATED:

NEWLY LISTENED - ROCK/JAZZ ALBUMS - RATED:

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FAMILIAR CLASSICAL RECORDED PERFORMANCES - RE-RATED:

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FAMILIAR SONGS/TRACKS/MOVEMENTS - RE-RATED:

NEWLY LISTENED - SONGS/TRACKS/MOVEMENTS - RATED:

FAMILIAR FILMS - RE-RATED:
Leon: The Professional - Luc Besson (1994) [Original Cut, 110 minutes; Extended Cut, 133 minutes: 7.4/10] 7.8/10 to 7.7/10

NEWLY WATCHED FILMS - RATED:

FAMILIAR PAINTINGS/VISUAL ART - RE-RATED:
Borobudur - Gunadharma (circa 842?) / Magelang Regency, Central Java, Indonesia [Architecture and Sculpture] 8.7/10 to 8.4/10
Imam Mosque - Ali Akbar Isfahani (1611 - 1629) [aka, Shah Mosque] / Naqsh-e Jahan Square, Esfahan, Isfahan Province, Iran [Architecture] 8.0/10 to 8.1/10
The Last Judgment - Hieronymus Bosch (after 1482; probably circa 1500 - 1503) / Academy of Fine Arts, Vienna, Austria [Painting] 8.0/10 to 8.1/10
Crucifixion (Corpus Hypercubus) - Salvador Dali (1954) / Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York, USA [Painting] 7.8/10 to 7.9/10
The Triumph of Death - Pieter Bruegel the Elder (circa 1562) / Museo del Prado, Madrid, Spain [Painting] 7.6/10 to 7.9/10
The Virgin - Gustav Klimt (1913) [Painting] 7.6/10 to 7.8/10
Philosophy, Medicine & Jurisprudence - Gustav Klimt (1899 - 1907) [University of Vienna Ceiling Paintings; Destroyed in 1945] [Painting] 7.3/10 to 7.7/10
Fall of the Angel - Anselm Kiefer (2022 - 2023) [Painting] Not Rated to 7.5/10
Les Espaces d'Abraxas - Ricardo Bofill (1978 - 1983) / Noisy-le-Grand, Paris, France [Architecture] 7.6/10 to 7.5/10
Aschenblume - Anselm Kiefer (1983-97) / Modern Art Museum of Fort Worth, Fort Worth, Texas, USA [Painting] Not Rated to 7.4/10
Basilica of the Sacred Heart - Albert Van Huffel (1919 - 1970) / Koekelberg, Brussels, Belgium [Architecture] 7.6/10 to 7.4/10
Eiffel Tower - Stephen Sauvestre (1887 - 1889) / 7th arrondissement, Paris, France [Architecture] Not Rated to 7.3/10
Castle in the Pyrenees - Rene Magritte (1959) / Israel Museum, Jerusalem, Israel [Painting] Not Rated to 7.3/10
Osiris and Isis - Anselm Kiefer (1985 - 1987) / San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, California, USA [Painting] Not Rated to 7.3/10
Metropolis - George Grosz (1916 - 1917) / Museo Nacional Thyssen-Bornemisza, Madrid, Spain [Painting] 7.1/10 to 7.3/10
The War - Otto Dix (1929 - 1932) / Galerie Neue Meister, Dresden, Germany [Painting] Not Rated to 7.3/10
Luzifer - Anselm Kiefer (2012 - 2023) [Painting] Not Rated to 7.3/10
Ash Flower - Anselm Kiefer (2004) [Painting] Not Rated to 7.3/10
Vietnam II - Leon Golub (1973) / Tate Modern, London, England, UK [Painting] Not Rated to 7.3/10
Composition VII - Wassily Kandinsky (1913) / Tretyakov Gallery, Moscow, Russia [Painting] Not Rated to 7.3/10
The Funeral (Dedicated to Oskar Panizza) - George Grosz (1917 - 1918) 7.0/10 to 7.1/10; 7.1/10 to 7.2/10
The Reminiscences of Judge Schulze, Part VII - Werner Tubke (1966 - 1967) [Painting] Not Rated to 7.1/10
The Reminiscences of Judge Schulze, Part II - Werner Tubke (1965) [Painting] Not Rated to 7.1/10
Cathedral of Maringá - José Augusto Bellucci (1959 - 1972) / Maringá, Paraná, Brazil [Architecture] Not Rated to 7.1/10
The Reminiscences of Judge Schulze, Part III - Werner Tubke (1965) [Painting] Not Rated to 6.9/10

SEVERAL UNLISTED HIERONYMOUS BOSCH RATINGS UPDATED/ADDED: https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/v...213#651213
SEVERAL UNLISTED PIETER BRUEGEL THE ELDER RATINGS UPDATED/ADDED: https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/v...237#651237
UNLISTED OTTO DIX RATINGS UPDATED/ADDED: https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/v...501#732501
UNLISTED RENE MAGRITTE RATINGS UPDATED/ADDED: https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/v...592#732592

NEWLY VIEWED PAINTINGS/VISUAL ART - RATED:
The Seven Heavenly Palaces 2004-2015 - Anselm Kiefer (2004 - 2015) / Pirelli HangarBicocca, Milan, Italy [Art Installation, Sculpture, Painting] 7.8/10
The Main Cathedral of the Russian Armed Forces - Mikhail Fayantsev (2018 - 2020) / Patriot Park, Kubinka, Odintsovsky District, Moscow Oblast, Russia [Architecture and Sculpture] 7.4/10
Pena National Palace - Wilhelm Ludwig von Eschwege (1842 - 1854) / Sintra, Portugal [Architecture] 7.3/10
Group X, Altarpieces, Nos. 1-3 - Hilma af Klint (1915) [Painting] 7.3/10

FAMILIAR LITERATURE - RE-RATED:

NEWLY READ LITERATURE - RATED:

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TOP 50 WORKS OF ART OF THE YEAR (2024 and 2025)
Sistine Chapel: Ceiling and The Last Judgment - Michelangelo Buonarroti (1512; 1541)
Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt (1974)
Piano Sonata No. 21 in B-flat Major - Franz Schubert (1828)
Pauline Chapel: The Conversion of Saul and The Crucifixion of St. Peter - Michelangelo Buonarroti (1545; 1550)
The Doors - The Doors (1966)
A Love Supreme - John Coltrane (1964)
The Velvet Underground and Nico - The Velvet Underground (1966)
Angkor Wat - Started by Suryavarman II; Completed by Jayavarman VII (circa 1122 - 1150; Note: there are various anomalies that may suggest an earlier date of construction -- perhaps even much earlier) [Architecture]
Are You Experienced? - Jimi Hendrix (1967)
Desertshore - Nico (1970)
Spiderland - Slint (1991)
Borobudur - Gunadharma (circa 842?) [Architecture]
Vertigo - Alfred Hitchcock (1958)
Guernica - Pablo Picasso (1937)
Alhambra - Muhammad I Ibn al-Ahmar; later additions overseen by Yusuf I and Muhammad V - Granada, Spain (initial structure: 1250; several alterations thereafter through the 1600s) [Architecture]
Kailasa Temple - King Krishna I (circa 773) [Architecture and Sculpture]
Piano Sonata No. 20 in A Major - Franz Schubert (1828)
Pieta - Michelangelo Buonarroti (1499) [Sculpture]
La Fabrica - Ricardo Bofill (1973 - 2022) / Sant Just Desvern, Catalonia, Spain [Architecture]
Golden Gate Bridge - Joseph Strauss - San Francisco, California (1937) [Architecture]
Sainte-Chapelle - Jean de Chelles or Thomas de Cormont (1248) / Paris, France [Architecture]
David - Michelangelo Buonarroti (1504) [Sculpture]
The Beethoven Frieze - Gustav Klimt (1902)
Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables - Dead Kennedy's (1980)
Bringing it all Back Home - Bob Dylan (1965)
Thriller - Michael Jackson (1982)
Florence Cathedral - Arnolfo di Cambio (1294-1302); Giotto (Bell Tower: 1334-1337); Filippo Brunelleschi (Dome: 1420-1436) (Completed 1436; Emilio De Fabris, Marble Facade: 1887) [Architecture]
In the Aeroplane Over the Sea - Neutral Milk Hotel (1997)
Mont-Saint-Michel Abbey - William of Volpiano (1060-1523) / Manche, Normandy, France [Architecture]
Lloyd's Building - Richard Rogers (1986) / London, England [Architecture]
The Ecstasy of Saint Teresa - Gian Lorenzo Bernini (1652) [Sculpture, Architecture and Painting]
Stata Center - Frank Gehry (2001 - 2004) / Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA [Architecture]
Cleveland Clinic Lou Ruvo Center for Brain Health - Frank Gehry (2007 - 2010) / Las Vegas, Nevada, USA [Architecture]
Saint-Nicolas Church - Walter Maria Förderer (1971) / Heremence, Switzerland [Architecture]
Europe After The Rain II - Max Ernst (1942)
Taj Mahal - Ustad Ahmad Lahauri (1653) [Architecture]
Medici Chapel: The Sagrestia Nuova - Michelangelo Buonarroti (1555) [Sculpture and Architecture]
Potala Palace - Lozano Gyatso (5th Dalai Llama; 1694)
Lady of the Mirrors - Anthony Davis (1980)
Guggenheim Museum - Frank Gehry (1991 - 1997) / Abando, Bilbao, Spain [Architecture]
Grundtvig's Church - Peder Vilhelm Jensen-Klint (1940) [Architecture]
Geghard Monastery - Gregory the Illuminator (4th Century) / Kotayk Province, Armenia [Architecture/Sculpture]
Basilica of the Sacred Heart - Albert Van Huffel (1919 - 1970) / Koekelberg, Brussels, Belgium [Architecture]
Metropolitan Cathedral of Rio de Janeiro - Edgar Fonseca (1979) / Rio de Janeiro, Brazil [Architecture]
La Muralla Roja - Ricardo Bofill (1968 - 1973) / Calpe, Alicante, Spain [Architecture][/b]
Church of the Holy Spirit - Imre Makovecz (1987 - 1991) / Paks, Hungary [Architecture][/b]
Church of Atlantida - Eladio Dieste (1952 - 1960) [aka, Church of Christ the Worker and Our Lady of Lourdes] / Estación Atlántida, Uruguay [Architecture]
Kizhi Pogost: Church of Transfiguration; Church of Intercession - Master Nestor (1694; 1714) [Architecture]
Church on the Water - Tadeo Ando (1985 - 1988) / Nakatomamu, Shimukappu, Yufutsu District, Japan [Architecture]
Music in a Doll’s House - Family (1968)
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I've newly added ratings for several key works of one of the greatest landscape artists, JMW Turner, onto his artist page. His Rain Steam painting is featured in the 7.3s on my "Greatest" list and the page can be easily linked from there.

This got me wanting to give further evaluation to, revisit, various landscape artists, and perhaps discovering some new ones along the way.

Revisiting and evaluating in closer detail Bruegel's Seasons series, was really what got me going on this -- although not a "pure" landscape painter, he is nevertheless among the greats of this type (as are other "non-pure" landscape artists, such as Da Vinci, El Greco, Mantegna, Bosch, Dali, Ernst, perhaps Klimt, Schiele, and others... all of which would have to be considered significant in the genre whether or not they fit purely into it as they are more figurative/historical-religious artists that happened to make significant artistic strides in landscape as essential elements to their paintings, or with devoting some of their careers to it but not the main body of their work). Closer to the "pure" side would of course be the likes of Monet, Van Gogh, Turner...

So, as he more or less invented the "pure landscape" genre, I also updated Albrecht Altdorfer's page to include more key works including his early "pure landscape" paintings, which although I don't consider especially significant they are nevertheless historically important in terms of being "first". Even though part of figurative paintings and not "purely" landscape paintings, I do consider his later landscapes very significant (above all, the astonishing "world" and "cosmic" landscape of Battle at Issus, which I've re-upgraded to the 7.3s, and you can link to his artist page again from there -- but even this amazing landscape does start to be alluded to by his earlier works as they hint at it and then develop into a more visionary, imaginative artistic language culminating with it).

I've also added a new page for a more traditional landscape artist Thomas Moran which features 3 of what are possibly his most significant works.

Depending on how long I want to pursue landscapes in this current round, I may add several others (such as Constable, Von Ruesdael, and so on...) which I've rated in the past but haven't returned to in a long time; as well: depending on how invested I get into the genre, I may take the time to dive into some newer ones to me, as well as fill out some other pages that should feature them (like Klimt and Schiele's landscapes, for example, or adding a lot more works that deserve to be mentined on El Greco's even if not pure landscapes beyond View of Toledo...)
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Various recent updates in case they were missed among the crowd...

On the "Greatest Paintings" list

(note: on its thread in the lounge forum, the main "Greatest" list is on the very first page; artist pages and discussion follows ... can be linked to as well from the bottom of any of my posts)

I am mostly filling in landscape painting gaps right now to just get to a better spot with rating this genre

I upgraded Constables greatest work to 7.3, perhaps higher... I also added a very rough draft analysis to his White Horse painting, the first of his most seminal works (the "six footers" series). Which will assist one as well with analysis of his others.

One that is easy to miss (because not on my Top 10+ log so far and not on a newly added artist page) is Rembrandts Landscape with Stone Bridge, which has now been added to his artist page and finally rated too. This is probably his greatest landscape work and an amazing forebear to even Surrealism (Dali, above all, directly or indirectly). A big clue: it is the "soul" and inner space and thinking behind the personage of Rembrandt (the landscape is a subtle, shadowy "inner" reflection of himself; even alluding deftly to a portrait from prior). As one realizes this, the landscape itself becomes even more stricken with "the process of thought" the inner darkness, the reflective contemplation, the inner light of the cognitive, of perhaps fading hope (including an obscured, shadowed Church in the distance), than one would otherwise connect to it. I will soon be adding, also, his possibly more famous, The Mill.

This will probably lead me to adding some Rubens landscapes too which I've just begun revisiting, and seem potentially more significant historically than I recalled... not to mention Titian, a precursor (who, btw, I badly need to get around to putting together a set of ratings and artist page on).

I also added Jacob van Ruisdael, still under evaluation. His Jewish Cemetery, long a favorite (used to be on my "Greatest" 7.3+ list years ago, now just below at 7.1) is a work I'm still re-evaluating (so the rating might not be "final") as well as several others. So don't be surprised to see more additions soon to his page, and possibly some ratings changes to what's already there.

Another one that is easy to miss is that I added Rockets and Blue Lights to JMW Turner's page, in some ways possibly his most seminal late work (even if not nearly his most famous). With this work starts culminating his tendency towards increasingly heavily abstracted, perplexing, more and more controversial and innovative visions (predicting impressionism, abstract art, with allusions to expressionism, futurism...), distorting the orientation of reality (the top and bottom, the water vs the air vs the smoke vs the land are all obscured, mirrored, could be flipped, inter-changed, merging into and out of each other with little delineation, semi indecipherable which is which...), metaphoric of how much the technological advancements of the age were replacing the reliance upon nature (and other possible accompanying meanings, in concern and awe of). Sometimes I think Rockets and Blue Lights might even be his very best work, 7.3+, but I've been in an indecision about it for a while... Haven't rated it yet but my thinking at this very moment is probably 7.2/10, maybe 7.1/10, maybe 7.3/10 (in other words, I don't know what the hell to rate it!)

Finally started re-adding Hernan Bas. Those familiar with my list from the listology.com days may recall that his "The Road Ahead is Golden Silver Bronze" work was featured there for a while, rated on the "Greatest" list. It is unfortunately annoyingly hard to find great images (that one can get a close, HQ, look at, on the internet). There used to be a really, really good HQ, very large one, of this work but I can't find it anymore, so I have so far posted the best of what I could find. His landscapes, exteriors, interiors, are definitely very psychological, meaningful, symbolic, not just physical phenomena but distorted or irrupted or fraught by and as "mental" or "psychological" phenomena as well, displacing, isolating the main character(s) among a crowd of thoughts, emotions, objects, environment, symbology being stirred and in limbo between "reality" and "abstraction" or "pressed upon by thought" -- the delineation between these two poles is obscured, left ambiguous, by the fact his work tends to be melded technically, formally, visually between the representational and the abstract, figurative a mix of both -- the "soul" or state of mind of the artist or as regards the figurative personage portrayed. The Road Ahead may be his greatest work because the delineation between "abstract" and "representational" perhaps finds a peak of 50/50 ambiguity, both mysterious and allusive but the reality not so obscured so that the emotion is still stirring greatly in its forms, trees, wreckage, still representation to favor emotional expression and not just conceptual. The emotion of the environment bookending left-to-right (as a "before" and "after") the main character tends to carry both immensity and that of being "held in", reserved, simultaneously with its overflow of emotional weight spilling out its sides ... while the main character is in solitude, cleaning his wounds, no one around to assist him in his near death (or maybe even suicidal) thoughts or event (ambiguous which), the painting of which is symbolic of a coming of age, three staged "triptych" experience and perhaps other meanings afforded it.

Finally started re-adding Alex Rockman .... Another one from my listology.com days that someone might recall (Manifest Destiny used to place well on my "Greatest" list in its earlier days)...

Finally re-added City Rises, Boccioni's seminal futurist work, to the "Greatest" list, while I also got back around to re-rating his States of Mind "triptych".

Re-upgraded (after brief drop to 8.6) Picasso's Guernica to 8.8/10... possibly even higher...? I am currently toying with the idea of answering some calls over the years to put together an analysis (or "rough draft") of this on his artist page and will update here if/when I do. Other than maybe a "thousand page" analysis (slight exaggeration Laughing ) of Michelangelo's Sistine or perhaps an analysis of Dali's Metamorphosis of Narcissus, Guernica seems to be the most wanted one for me to say something about...? ...so yeah, I'm toying with that right now, we'll see...

Unless Picasso manages to sweep me up fully into another direction (he might yet...) I still plan to continue landscapes for a little bit (or at least mostly landscapes as the main focus...). I'll probably update some key artists from the listology days, landscape centric or not, in between those...
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Updated Van Gogh artist page, including adding another Van Gogh 7.3+ to the "Greatest" list.

I added a small handful of key works that weren't on there before, like Potato Eaters, the famous Cafe Terrace at Night, Starry Night Over Rhone and a couple others... I'll probably add some more in the meantime...

I also tweaked some of the ratings a little bit (mostly by 0.1 or 0.2... for instance, Cypresses from 7.1 to 7.2 ...may also get an upgrade onto the 7.3+ list).

I revisited Starry Night and may re-upgrade it, haven't decided yet...

On the more obvious end of things, I added an artist page of David Alfaro Siqueiros. A couple of you old stalwarts may even recall that, back in the good 'ol listology days, in the early incarnations of my paintings list, I used to have his Collective Suicide as high as 9.2/10!!! As I revisited it and re-rated it now, that once-so-legitimate-thought crossed my mind... And even though I still think quite highly of it (despite the rating now being 6.8 maybe 6.9-7.0ish) and still think quite highly of Siqueiros as an artist, I always find it interesting how as my (anyone's?) perspective widens as to what the most extraordinary masterpieces of an art form truly are (if one is being meticulous, or even cares to...) some or several previous ones usually tend to fall down proportional to this and the scale from top to bottom sort of "comes to fruition" exposing the differences between, say, a really impactful, great work like a 7/10 and a 9/10+ that is impactful as well but usually in a far greater multitude of inter-connected ways simultaneously to the point of what might be called something like "epiphanic overwhelm" in relation to it. This difference tends to be a difference in "depth", multi-layered impact or profundity, over a a more limited (even if still impressive in this limited way) "surface" impact/profundity that (in the case of 7 for example) may seem just as high at first but tends to wane over time and settle into that level, whereas a 9/10 will be at least as great at first (assuming one gets it well enough) but then also will express itself and impact one in several ways simultaneously, even miraculously, causing that sort of sensory overwhelm more or less permanently (pretty much no matter how many revisits; it is such a singular impact and even type of experience or at least an astonishing culmination of its type, that comparisons, experiences with others don't bring it down like what happened to the 7 that once seemed like a 9 -- the revisits, the comparisons, the increased acclimation to its content and thus bring its "depth" to the fore, proving it didn't really belong in that class). For me, as I get more and more experience with evaluating an art form, I tend to get (hopefully!) more in tune with assessing the difference, and thus changes like Collective Suicide, once near the top of my list, can happen over time. That's also, as a note, when many of my 7.3+ list, or what existed of it then, most of the same that have carried forward to now, were at least 8/10. Several others were 8.8+. Like, for instance, Munch's The Scream, used to be 8.8/10. Starry Night was like 8.9 or so. Klimt's The Kiss was about 9.1/10 back in the day. Beethoven Frieze was once about 9.4 something like that. Some others were lower, sometimes much lower, than they should be. Like Michelangelo's Pieta was barely 7.3/10 when I began my evals of sculpture (I recall one reader, "Marquee" I think, PMing me about being shocked back then; even though it seemed right to me then, eventually I understood why as I studied Michelangelo more extensively!!!). I think the David was 7/10 or something. Sistine Chapel early on was around 9.5 and eventually progressed to 10. Rubens rated way higher in general (most of his key works) than he does now (which still might be a little too low, but it will never be as high as it was then). Ex: Fall of the Damned was 9.2/10 at one point (7.2 now, could maybe be 7.3-7.5 if I were to take more time to re-eval the artist and go through his works...) ... Anyway, quite a progression from then until now!
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For Van Gogh fans... (dost thou opposite exist???)

I've now updated his artist page to 28 paintings, fitting for perhaps the most popular painter in the world -- somehow finding that magical balance between overwhelming vibrant, effusive color, fevered beauty and yet just as so a fevered supplication, absolving, expression of inner torment, turbulence, pain -- yet becoming universal, the painter that practically everyone knows and loves and remaining so distinct despite his influence (on the Fauvism, Expressionism, etc) ...sort of like Beethoven in music (not comparable though in terms of the monumental scale or ambition of their works, ouvre), nevertheless it is rare for an artist so unusual for his time, so original/innovative, to strike such a universality of popularity.

Among those 28, obviously several are old favorites now added. I also upgraded Starry Night (minor upgrade) and Cypresses up to the 7.3+ list (as alluded earlier). There remains a possibility that Van Gogh may have another 7.3+ work (or more) under his sleeve -- something I'm thinking more and more as I'm going back through so many of his impressive array of portraits (one of the greatest portrait artists in addition to one of the greatest landscape artists) ...and trying like hell to differentiate the exact ratings of all of them (an undertaking that is rather meticulous and difficult, and probably stupid d'oh! not recommended to those who go a little crazy trying to decide on such things!). I also made minor upgrades to several others by a 0.1 or 0.2 which may or may not be of interest depending on how much a curiosity one follows the ratings (probably more interesting in relation to each other than as stand alone numerical values). Starry Night, as a note, could even be as high as 7.8 or so. I'm mid re-evaluating it, looking back at earlier notes, trying to go through it with "fresh eyes" (I've been familiar with it practically my whole life, just like a lot of people, it is so damn ubiquitous; for years I even had a very HQ realistic reproduction of it in my living room!). As a note, it has helped (as I would always advise to at least some degree with any comprehensive artist) going through many of his works before it, following along with the emotions, concepts, development apparently expressed with those, as a sort of trajectory TO the eventual (and very innovative, even among his own works) Starry Night, and what could be called a culmination and consolidation of his ideas, aesthetic, style. Going through those others makes even clearer its attributes and seems to have "re-improved" my rating for it inching back to a small upgrade so far and (possibly) as high as 7.7, 7.8, something like that, still TBD.

I do want to add some more of his earlier works even if those tend to be far less unique and emotional and the ratings aren't nearly as impressive.

As a misc note of little consequence, I may have to start changing these artist pages, where the ratings are listed, under a new heading of something like "main" works instead of "best" works, because more and more I'm starting to add works in a lower ratings range where that would no longer apply...

A similar undertaking for Rembrandt may come next (I've been wanting to revisit his landscapes and portraits for quite some time and Van Gogh reinvigorated this), with perhaps some other (more brief) updates interspersed among that or in between he and Van Gogh
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Updates...

I am working on Rembrandt now. I've added several self-portraits to his artist page, none of which were on there before (very difficult to decide on ratings for them) and updated some of his other ratings too. There are still several works I will probably add to his page, not just portraits even though that was what I mostly wanted to revisit because I'd never got around to rating them.

Note that the handful of self-portraits I have on there are each (so far) at a 7.0/10. While this is a more or less accurate "average" score among them and may even prove "final", it is so far a good estimate and I am not done going back through them, thus there remains a good chance there will be more nuance to their scores (some may be slightly below 7.0, some may be slightly above...), to be updated as I go and as I get more thoroughly into re-evaluating Rembrandt and comparing those works among his others and looking over all the scores relative to that (and relative to other, especially recently updated, portrait's scores, such as those of Van Gogh...).

Most prominently thus far, I upgraded Return of the Prodigal Son (from 7.0) and Belshazzar's Feast (from 7.2) up to the 7.3+ list. They've both been there before but it's been a long time since.

I've also updated a number of the links and images to those that were already featured, as I've been going. As per usual, I try to find and feature the best that can be found...

More coming for Rembrandt... His page can be easily linked to from any of the 5 paintings on the "Greatest" list (link below this post and/or first page of the thread in the Lounge forum)

Note that I also added some more Van Gogh's (with ratings) to his page before I moved on to Rembrandt.
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Don't know if this is a major point of interest but just to keep anyone in the know for whom it may be...

Rembrandt now has three 7.4s, the Prodigal Son already there as of recently and now two more upgrades added. The most intriguing of which may be Lucretia because although it tends to be highly respected by those who are familiar with it, it nevertheless almost never features in his "greatest" works as far as I can tell over the years. However, the depth of emotion and meaning imbued in it is a pretty stunning merging of Rembrandt's incredible technique and conveyance, suggestion of said technique, perhaps beyond any of his more famous self-portraits (comparable because it is basically itself a solo portrait of someone else, probably his lover as a stand in, only adding to the psychological complexity). It could be called the absolute peak of his art of the human figure and conveyance of depth and emotion in said figure (though it's also quite a bit more than that in totality).

I also upgraded Van Gogh's Cypresses to 7.4 (from 7.3). If you're familiar with the symbology of his Cypresses as, essentially a memento mori, contemplations of death and rebirth (virtually decrepit stand ins for Van Gogh reaching, strugglingly towards or into the sky), and realize his paint strokes and tumultuous color and the "innerness" of such (with each stroke or line painstakingly applied, carried out as a prominent line in itself, then twisting and turning with all the others too) are expressions of a tormented soul attempting to extricate, find, touch, feel the tactility of the beauty (simultaneous to the pain, both seen and felt in the strokes and the calamity of form, color, impasto). His forms and colors also highly expressive, yet "abstractions" (simplified "naive" form, simplified dashes of line, naive profusions of color, not subtly graded/shaded) of each form and color. And then realize the tumult and tortuous Cypress tree in this work above any of his others, in its prominence, profusion of variegated color and form and emotion, including the contorted and winded shape, bushes beneath (also beautiful, in its dichotomy, bewildered and virtually "evangelical" in its quandary and near-ferocity of emotion and expression) symbolically (probably) can be seen as an expressionist equivalent (again, keeping in mind the memento mori, the symbolic idea of the Egyptian obelisk that he saw these as) to a monumental en-flamed "bonfire of flame-like nature" in front of him (keeping also in mind that it is depicting the movement of tumultuous wind, fluctuating colors, and the more or less or borderline distorted sense of color, state of mind and vision of Van Gogh as to how he depicts and sees the reality of things; more the fantastical "evangelical" vision, distorted, expressionistic, bordering on surreal...). I also added some new improved images/links to this work (on his artist page) including a couple very large ones that allow you to get even closer to the strokes and tumultuous technique, form, color as described above.

^^^ forgive the rushed "tangent" (in a hurry as usual, just trying to get it all out there Laughing Laughing Laughing )

I also upgraded Van Der Weyden's Descent from the Cross, the Eiffel Tower, Boccioni's City Rises, Altdorfer's Battle of Alexander, El Greco's View of Toledo.

You may notice too that I am amidst moving around various 7.3s which could result in some further upgrades/downgrades or simply changes in position among the same rating (a handful of which have been done in the 7.3s).

There are some 7.4s that I have been reconsidering their ratings (either upgrade or downgrade) that I intend to revisit today and hopefully come to a conclusion on.

I am making a point to go through lots of 7.3s and 7.4s right now to shore up those ratings (making upgrades or maybe downgrades where necessary) and changing the order where necessary. This is both simply out of interest in revisiting these favorites but also just getting more and more exactitude with the ratings for you nerds like me that give a rip about such things.

I am still thinking with adding to Rembrandt's artist page and want to go through the self-portraits a little more closely than the current general "7.0s" may indicate. I also have an aim to add to Caravaggio's page which is still missing several key works (and who I've just started revisiting, appropriately of course, as he was a major influence on Rembrandt), and probably El Greco and would like to get to Titian even, and still have an eye towards revisiting some Rubens, as these are all connected to both each other (in various ways) plus to the earlier goal of updating landscape art a bit (still on my mind, along with portrait art now, though also not completely limiting myself to those two sub-genres either).
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As alluded to some days ago, I upgraded Van Gogh's Starry Night to 7.8

Downgraded David's Death of Socrates a little to 7.3 (from 7.4)

Revisited some more 7.3s and moved them around some (but no new upgrades from there so far today, just shifts in up and down in position).

Including Schiele's Death and the Maiden, which moved up a little bit (maybe should be even higher; hard to say right now among so much extraordinary art ... we'll see... it used to be 7.5 and long ago it was even much higher than that... so maybe...). And I also added a very "rough draft" analysis for this work on his page. Again, its very rough, not final, just a pack of notes on a number of key points which could easily be missed if one isn't very attentive and at least fairly studious of him, his art, its relationship and expressiveness to his personal life and the anxieties of the time...
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As alluded to some days ago, I upgraded Van Gogh's Starry Night to 7.8

Van Gogh's art almost 3D with the amount of paint he uses.
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Van Gogh's art almost 3D with the amount of paint he uses.


Agreed AM!

Between the impasto, the "tortuous", struggling, tense, intensely emotive, reaching, gesticular, anxious and wavering sense of line ...then the naive, heightened expressionism, abstraction and distortion of form and color, he was highly individual and happened to be a forerunner to much modern art.

The Starry Night is probably his masterpiece ...whether or not Van Gogh himself agreed ...or perhaps was just too hesitant to say so due to his mental state (and the particular stigma and fear of artists and mental conditions during the time), perhaps fears of letting his family down, and perhaps his thinking he should not upset his brother, who would have wanted to hear how he was improving smoothly and therapeutically and with no issues -- and probably not want to hear so much about the emotive, vigorous, expressionist, unusual, distorted types of extra-imaginative (breaking free from nature) vision he had painted that was pretty evidently looking at "the beyond" plus framed in the foreground and virtually the POV from an almost pitch black and now fully "en-flamed" (in form, shape) Cypress tree, that he had already told Theo echoed themes of death, rebirth, Egyptian obelisks... This sort of thought process (imo) could easily explain Van Gogh downplaying the work in describing it to Theo.

I'll probably never know for sure (and either way, I would think it his masterpiece anyway). Just seems unlikely to me that he wouldn't have himself thought the work was successful in truth, because of how assuredly and creatively (like a burst of inspiration) it expounds upon and culminates his intentions that he had detailed to him prior to that and prior to his worsened condition.
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