Point Of Departure
by Andrew Hill

Point Of Departure by Andrew Hill
Year: 1965
Release date: 1965-04-00
Overall rank: 4,342nd   Overall chart history
Average Rating: 
78/100 (from 121 votes)
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Accolades:
Award Top albums of 1965 (31st)
Award Top albums of of the 1960s (351st)
Award Best albums of all time (4,342nd)

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Point Of Departure is ranked as the best album by Andrew Hill.

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Overall rank: 4,342nd | 1960s rank: 351st | 1965 rank: 31st  Overall chart history
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78/100 (from 121 votes)
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This album is rated in the top 3% of all albums on BestEverAlbums.com. This album has a Bayesian average rating of 77.5/100, a mean average of 76.3/100, and a trimmed mean (excluding outliers) of 78.0/100. The standard deviation for this album is 15.6.


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From kokkinos 08/22/2022 21:20 in I'm going back to the start
“Point Of Departure is widely regarded as Andrew Hill’s magnum opus and as far as I’m concerned it more than lives up to its reputation. A while back I commented on his previous album - Black Fire - and I wrote that the tendency to compare him with Thelonious Monk isn’t entirely justified, as I was…”
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From Lowkey 12/27/2015 12:10 in The Lowkey Log
“Did you hear the new Future and Weekend song yet?? Not yet! Will be listening soon :D great rock record decent psych rock dope heavy metal, def in my top 3 JP records good, MUCH better than Ace Of Spades. possibly my favorite Judas Priest record, extremely consistent ehhhhh, nowhere near as good as…”
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Liked this very much. Would definitely recommend to those just starting out listening to jazz music.
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Very hard bop.ll played and rhythmically challenging album is not for everybody. Requires many listens to be evaluated properly
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A great blend of hard bop and avant-garde. Very intriguing and original. 9/10! (Edited)
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