Recently user MCOTho made a thread detailing the BEA top 20 hip hop albums and asked what people thought of them, and I thought it'd be neat to do one with jazz. At the time of posting, this is our jazz top twenty and well ...
Look I am by no means a jazz-head, in fact I'd say I'm if anything a novice, but I think we can all agree that although there's a couple of great records here our lack of jazz representation is embarrassing. There's barely 20 in the top thousand albums (and some people might even debate the question of whether Head Hunters is strictly jazz), of whom are by a depressingly concentrated 12 artists. Looking through the top 1,000 it really hit me just how rock centralised this website is and it made me a little sad. Please tell me I am not the only one who thinks this is in big need of a change ...
I'd love to see some more diversity (inject Roach, Peterson, Sun Ra, Shepp, Brotzmann, Bill Evans, Sonny Clark, Morgan, Montgomery, Cherry, Braxton, Ellington, Ayler, Mobley) and about 40-50 in our top 1000. Nina Simone should seriously have at least 3 albums in our top 500. Haven't a clue what's with you people.
Selection's not bad though. Head Hunters keeps aging badly for me, but the rest are all ace. _________________ Doubles & Conch
baystateoftheartNeil Young as a butternut squashProfile Massachusetts
This selection is definitely worse than the hip-hop top twenty. I'll ask the same question as I did on that thread. Which three would you remove first and what would you replace them with? _________________ Join us in the canon game :) / Add me on RYM
This selection is definitely worse than the hip-hop top twenty. I'll ask the same question as I did on that thread. Which three would you remove first and what would you replace them with?
Out:
Bitches Brew (controversial!)
Head Hunters
My Favorite Things
In:
Max Roach - We Insist!
Bill Evans - Waltz For Debby
Wes Montgomery - The Incredible Jazz Guitar of Wes Montgomery
Also, having Money Jungle somewhere in our top 1,000 shouldn't be too outlandish. Same with Ellington At Newport and Oscar Peterson's On The Town.
(overlooking any free improv or vocal jazz for the sake of conversation) _________________ Doubles & Conch
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I'd love to see some more diversity (inject Roach, Peterson, Sun Ra, Shepp, Brotzmann, Bill Evans, Sonny Clark, Morgan, Montgomery, Cherry, Braxton, Ellington, Ayler, Mobley) and about 40-50 in our top 1000. Nina Simone should seriously have at least 3 albums in our top 500. Haven't a clue what's with you people.
Selection's not bad though. Head Hunters keeps aging badly for me, but the rest are all ace.
i'd definitely like to see more diversity in the list as well (esp. nina simone and some newer artists like esperanza spalding). eye-balling this, it looks like more than half of those albums are coltrane/davis/mingus.
as for head hunters, seeing them live gave me a lot more respect for that album. _________________ follow me on the bandcamp.
FischmanRockMonster, JazzMeister, Bluesboy,ClassicalMasterProfile Land of Enchantment
I voted middle of the road. Lots of great stuff there, but lots missing. As Hayden noted, it needs more diversity. I guess it's not unlike a pop/rock list overloaded with Beatles, Radiohead and Dylan.
FischmanRockMonster, JazzMeister, Bluesboy,ClassicalMasterProfile Land of Enchantment
This selection is definitely worse than the hip-hop top twenty. I'll ask the same question as I did on that thread. Which three would you remove first and what would you replace them with?
I would drop
Bitches Brew
Sketches of Spain
Giant Steps
Replace with
Smokin' at the Half Not - Wes Montgomery with the Wynton Kelly Trio.
The Sidewinder - Lee Morgan
The Blues and the Abstract Truth - Oliver Nelson
Journey In Satchidananda - Alice Coltrane
Rythmes Contemporains - Janko Nilovic
Sextant - Herbie Hancock _________________ Join us in the canon game :) / Add me on RYM
FischmanRockMonster, JazzMeister, Bluesboy,ClassicalMasterProfile Land of Enchantment
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