The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady (album) by Charles Mingus
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The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady is ranked as the best album by Charles Mingus.
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100/100  | 43 hours ago | TheAviator | | 84/100 |
90/100 | 44 hours ago |  Timestarter | | 88/100 |
70/100 | 05/24/2020 08:26 | fabm0 | | 58/100 |
70/100 | 05/23/2020 19:53 | jukkasetala | | 83/100 |
85/100 | 05/22/2020 05:39 |  eclab | | 85/100 |
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This album is rated in the top 1% of all albums on BestEverAlbums.com. This album has a mean average rating of 85.0/100. The trimmed mean (excluding outliers) is 86.7/100. The standard deviation for this album is 16.8.
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Montpejo 04/17/2020 00:21
Highlights:
Duet Solo Dancers
Group Dancers
Solo Dancer
VictorVale 02/18/2020 15:01
Genial uso do ritmo!! Grande obra!
JoaoMoreira 01/30/2020 01:17
Have only heard "Mingus Ah Um" before and this is clearly a step forward with a strong avantgarde sense.
That can be mostly seen in the arrangements with a familiar approach to his classical/contemporary counterparts.
In terms of individuality, the pianist is an absolute delight to hear and the drummer is also outstanding, serves but also amazes.
This record is what happens when a great musician lets its creativity run free.
Quite probably this is the greatest most genius album ever made.
Kaduken 08/02/2019 21:00
Incredible. Particularly impressed by the saxophones on this one.
Not really a jazz fan, but this was awesome. Group Dancers was my favorite, and I really liked the use of classical guitar in the music.
I really don't like the piano playing on side 2, the thundering box chords; it tips the scales too far towards classical for me, on this very "third-stream" (fusion of jazz and classical, a trend at the time) album. I never listen to that side, but side 1 is a thrill ride, for sure.
Yeah, it's just the best record of all time. Not a single note out of place, and I mean that. Boy, do I mean that.
ForegroundNoise 09/13/2018 16:45
By all contemporary accounts an obsessive band leader, (think J.K. Simmons in Whiplash) Mingus suffered nothing less than perfection when he began work on his great composition for an imagined ballet. The moments of free improvisation on this thing have a funny knack of seeming somehow deliberate; every flourishing bassline, every wailing trumpet, every rolling snare – the songs cascade past your ears (/eyes?) like renaissance painting arranged to painstaking detail. With this record Mingus cut through the cool jazz of his predecessors to provide something simultaneously beautiful and horrifying.
It may not be my personal favourite jazz record of all time, but if you listen to one jazz album your life, make it this one.
Most of this is copied from the description of the album in my overall chart, do check it out if you have the time!!
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