The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady (studio album) by Charles Mingus

The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady by Charles Mingus
Year: 1963
Overall rank: 92nd   Overall chart historyOverall chart history
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86/100 (from 994 votes)
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Accolades:
Award Best album of 1963 (1st)
Award Top 50 albums of the 1960s (22nd)
Award Top 100 albums of all time (92nd)
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This album is rated in the top 1% of all albums on BestEverAlbums.com. This album has a Bayesian average rating of 86.1/100, a mean average of 84.9/100, and a trimmed mean (excluding outliers) of 86.3/100. The standard deviation for this album is 16.7.

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95/100
From 04/21/2023 11:03
A brilliantly composed masterpiece from one of the true geniuses of jazz music. We are treated to 39 minutes of musical beauty with some outstanding performances across the whole ensemble. Mingus himself is obviously one of these performers that stand out with his playing being extremely strong due to his intelligent way of conveying emotion to us. You can hear the passion behind his playing which makes it such an easy record to connect with. He is not alone with his high quality performances either with the sax and trumpet putting in some stellar displays. All of the performances culminate in an outstanding display on all three of the first tracks which also fit together so brilliantly in the context of the album. I also find the closing track is a little overlooked due to how great the other three songs are. There is so much fun to have on that final song with the last 7 minutes just being pure energy and great playing and by the time you reach the end of the release I just want to start it right back at the beginning as it is just that good. Overall, this record might take a few listens to get into but it rewards the listeners patience massively as this is one of the greatest albums ever made.
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From 04/12/2023 20:56
98/100

the idea of an ideal and paradisiacal place to illustrate and qualify this work, it becomes almost obligatory, has such points it is deserved. The Black Saint and The Sinner Lady is one of the most fascinating, romantic and brilliant works an artist has ever produced, because it simply contains all the elements of a perfect work. The concept is brilliant, original and clearly mastered, you are constantly surprised without ever losing track, and the content is so breathtaking that you will spend your time praying to God that it never ends
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95/100
From 08/07/2022 04:43
Takes a minute to appreciate but once you learn the sound and get used to it you recognize the amazement and beauty within this album. Definitely worth a listen if you love jazz!
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Rating:  
90/100
From 05/20/2022 08:45
Album Rating: 83.00
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1.Solo Dancer (Stop! Look! And Listen, Sinner Jim Whitney!) - 78
2.Duet Solo Dancers (Hearts' Beat And Shades In Physical Embraces) - 85
3.Group Dancers ((Soul Fusion) Freewoman And Oh, This Freedom's Slave Cries) - 86
4.Trio And Group Dancers (Stop! Look! And Sing Songs Of Revolutions!) / Single Solos And Group Dancers (Saint And Sinner Join In Merriment On Battle Front) / Group And Solo Dance (Of Love, Pain And Passioned Revolt, Then Farewell, My Beloved, 'Til It's Freedom Day) - 83
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95/100
From 04/23/2022 18:01
Probably the most entertaining jazz album I've ever heard.
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95/100
From 02/03/2022 21:11
This album presents Mingus' attempt to create Jazz the same way classical music is usually composed: through pen and paper. The results are very interesting and the performances are amazing.
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90/100
From 11/15/2021 18:28
This was my introduction to Mingus, and the best way I can describe it is as a straight 9/10 from top to bottom. No track is Mingus' most brilliant stuff, and yet every track is REALLY good!
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From 10/21/2021 12:26
Grandísimo disco.
Me encanta la combinación de instrumentos.
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100/100
From 05/01/2021 03:25
You can feel the heat through the arrangements and the notes. It's really heavy for a jazz album, as it composed by the angry man of jazz himself. a MASTERPIECE no matter what genre you're into. 100/100
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