Our Shadows Will Remain
by Joseph Arthur

Our Shadows Will Remain by Joseph Arthur
Year: 2004
Release date: 2004-10-12
Overall rank: 48,000th   Overall chart history
Average Rating: 
72/100 (from 12 votes)
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Award Top albums of 2004 (891st)
Award Top albums of the 2000s (9,126th)
Award Best albums of all time (48,000th)

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Joseph Arthur bestography

Our Shadows Will Remain is ranked 6th best out of 15 albums by Joseph Arthur on BestEverAlbums.com.

The best album by Joseph Arthur is Come To Where I'm From which is ranked number 20443 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 50.

Joseph Arthur album bestography « Higher ranked (37,855th)
Big City Secrets
This album (48,000th)
Our Shadows Will Remain
Lower ranked (49,576th) »
The Graduation Ceremony

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Overall rank: 48,000th | 2000s rank: 9,126th | 2004 rank: 891st

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One of the things I appreciate most about Joseph Arthur is his refusal to be pulled into the detached cynicism of hipsterdom, despite living among a community of artists (Arthur himself is a painter in addition to being a musician) during a time in history that encourages nihilism and retreating inward. Following the outbreak of the Iraq War, Arthur made an album that looks decidedly outward, and while it's not explicitly a political statement, Our Shadows Will Remain reminds us that traces of our choices today will reverberate far into the future. Which is both encouraging and utterly depressing. This theme is explored in an especially interesting way in "I Am," a song that points out the illusion of our importance while at the same time asks us to be present in this moment as if it were a matter of life and death: "To find out what you really are / You must wake up from this long night / Repeat the words 'I am.'"
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