Valentine (studio album) by Snail Mail
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Valentine is ranked 2nd best out of 3 albums by Snail Mail on BestEverAlbums.com.
The best album by Snail Mail is Lush which is ranked number 2275 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 712.
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The tracks on this album have an average rating of 76 out of 100 (all tracks have been rated).
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75/100 ![]() | 02/17/2023 03:39 | ![]() | ![]() | 86/100 |
70/100 ![]() | 01/22/2023 13:13 | ![]() | ![]() | 60/100 |
60/100 ![]() | 01/17/2023 20:15 | AledJames | ![]() | 68/100 |
65/100 ![]() | 01/11/2023 16:10 | ![]() | ![]() | 72/100 |
70/100 ![]() | 01/05/2023 11:25 | aldousornette | ![]() | 68/100 |
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This album has a Bayesian average rating of 72.1/100, a mean average of 71.6/100, and a trimmed mean (excluding outliers) of 72.1/100. The standard deviation for this album is 11.0.
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A significant improvement over Lush--an album I was not a fan of at all. There are a few highlights here in the middle I'm into. Still, Snail Mail isn't really my thing, even though they should 100% be up my alley. Maybe one day...

A really good step forward from her debut. Much more full sounding. Her songwriting has progressed nicely. The production is pretty good and is a defining feature of the album in contrast to her more bedroom-sounding stuff. All that being said, "c. et. al" is my favorite song on the album and one of my favorite of the year. I feel like it's miles ahead of anything else in terms of intricacy. Shit makes me cry. I think she finds something special and unique with her voice at times on this record. A lot of potential is shown on this already pretty good album and I'm excited to see what she brings in the future.
Pretty solid album here. Nothing crazy special, just some solid tunes. 7.5/10 very enjoyable

Are we really blowing a load every time we hear a string section?
I've grown to enjoy her as a personality and, well, as much as I really want to like her music I don't think I've come across an output that have felt so underwhelming compared to the hype and praise that's been heaped upon it. There was at least some promise with her previous work that, despite not really going anywhere new, had some charm and a distinct 90s-era singer-with-a-guitar atmosphere, but that's kind of lost in what we get here- a sort of bubblegum "All Mirrors"? Given if you got more mileage than I did of that album this could work a lot better, I guess, but despite the occasionally clever lyrics the music is slanted and fluffy in mostly predictable ways and the breakup narrative feels kind of lightweight- while I still do see some promise as a songwriter, this really exposes her range limitations as a performer. Again, this is all attractive enough and certainly not unlistenable, but just nowhere near as barbed or surprising as it clearly thinks it is.

Solid sophomore album with a pretty sharp change in sound. Not as strong as Lush, but this one has been growing on me with each listen. Songs show a lot of maturity and growth. Mia stands out as a wonderful closer.
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