Sad Songs For Dirty Lovers
by The National

Sad Songs For Dirty Lovers by The National
Year: 2003
Release date: 2003-09-02
Overall rank: 3,528th   Overall chart history
Average Rating: 
74/100 (from 227 votes)
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Accolades:
Award Top albums of 2003 (70th)
Award Top albums of of the 2000s (598th)
Award Best albums of all time (3,528th)

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The National bestography

Sad Songs For Dirty Lovers is ranked 8th best out of 18 albums by The National on BestEverAlbums.com.

The best album by The National is High Violet which is ranked number 120 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 10,446.

The National album bestography « Higher ranked (2,075th)
First Two Pages Of Frankenstein
This album (3,528th)
Sad Songs For Dirty Lovers
Lower ranked (3,608th) »
Laugh Track

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Overall rank: 3,528th | 2000s rank: 598th | 2003 rank: 70th  Overall chart history
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74/100 (from 227 votes)
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From 11/02/2022 19:51 | #290995
Album Rating: 81.00
(972/12)

1.Cardinal Song. 79
2.Slipping Husband. 98
3.90-Mile Water Wall. 74
4.It Never Happened. 69
5.Murder Me Rachael. 76
6.Thirsty. 91
7.Available. 97
8.Sugar Wife. 69
9.Trophy Wife. 78
10.Fashion Coat. 69
11.Patterns Of Fairytales. 72
12.Lucky You. 100
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75/100
From 09/18/2022 14:11 | #289762
A great opening half that dips to good but recovers with Lucky You - which may be my favourite on this album - competing with Murder Me Rachael
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70/100
From 05/04/2021 02:40 | #269338
Released in 2003 BEFORE their critically acclaimed masterpiece suit of ‘Aligator’ (2005), ‘Boxer’ (2007), ‘High Violet’ (2010) and ‘Trouble Will Find Me’ (2013) ‘Sad Songs . . . ‘ is in many ways The Nationals forgotten gem. Considering what followed it hardly seems fair
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75/100
From 04/22/2016 00:32 | #164253
A really great sophomore record by any standards. And this is the National. There are a lot of great moments from Berninger and the boys. Trophy Wife, 90 Mile Waterfall, Available, Lucky You are all standout cuts by a great band finding form.
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Underrated, especially when compared to its successors. "Cardinal Song", "Murder Me Rachael" and "Available" are among my favourite songs by The National.
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