Sad Songs For Dirty Lovers
by The National

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Sad Songs For Dirty Lovers is ranked 8th best out of 18 albums by The National on BestEverAlbums.com.
The best album by The National is High Violet which is ranked number 121 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 10,332.
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The tracks on this album have an average rating of 79 out of 100 (all tracks have been rated).
Sad Songs For Dirty Lovers rankings
Calculated from aggregate positions across 60,000 charts (2 million album rankings). Click to see how the rankings are calculated (Last updated: 6 hours ago)
| Year | Source | Chart | Rank | Rank Score |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2026 | Top 71 Music Albums of 2003 | 45/71 | 2 | |
| 2026 | Cheboygan74 | Top 100 Music Albums of the 2000s | 45/100 | 11 |
| 2026 | juanr1096 | Top 100 Music Albums of 2003 | 89/100 | 1 |
| 2026 | Top 100 Music Albums of 2003 | 78/100 | 1 | |
| 2026 | TastyandTemptin | Top 28 Music Albums of 2003 | 19/28 | 2 |
| 2026 | gloriousgoo | Top 99 Greatest Music Albums | 81/99 | 18 |
| 2026 | Top 100 Music Albums of 2003 | 96/100 | 0 | |
| 2026 | martintho | Top 31 Music Albums of 2003 | 28/31 | 1 |
| 2026 | Top 65 Music Albums of 2003 | 35/65 | 2 | |
| 2026 | lanadeleswift | Top 59 Music Albums of 2003 | 32/59 | 2 |
| Total Charts: The total number of charts that this album has appeared in. | 110 | |||
| Total Rank Score: The total rank score. | 424 | |||
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| Rating | Date updated | Member | Album ratings | Avg. album rating |
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| ! | 09/25/2026 20:24 | Praibonito | 97 | 86/100 |
| ! | 08/27/2026 22:54 | Melway94 | 118 | 83/100 |
| ! | 06/03/2026 22:00 | Fevernova | 3,161 | 82/100 |
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This album is rated in the top 15% of all albums on BestEverAlbums.com. This album has a Bayesian average rating of 74.0/100, a mean average of 73.6/100, and a trimmed mean (excluding outliers) of 74.1/100. The standard deviation for this album is 11.7.
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For some it's Boxer. Others Alligator. And a few High Violet. For me, it's so Sad Songs.
Strange that as the first album I bought by a band that have become my favourite I have never fully connected with this album. When I looked at the band's back catalogue after the release of Trouble Will Find Me I came up with a theory that their album's come in pairs but Sad Songs just doesn't seem to fit in. For me the downbeat acoustics of Cherry Tree sits better as the follow up to their country tinged debut. My feeling of Sad Songs is that it was the band trying to realise a vision of a denser more sophisticated sound than their eponymous album that was just beyond them at that point in their development. Cherry Tree then feels like a return to basics and Alligator/Boxer a much more natural progression to High Violet/TWFM where they achieved that complex sound they were after. All of this is not to say that Sad Songs gives me nothing, It's still full of Matt's poetry which can make me laugh and cry whilst still not really knowing what he's talking about. The songs all work fine on their own but seem somehow disparate without that feeling of togetherness that great albums have. I'm trying to condense a lot of thoughts into a nutshell here and really struggling, I could write a book on The National's albums (I'm not saying it would be a good book but it would be a book.) I'm listening to Sad Songs as I write this and I'm just noticing how conventional Bryan's drumming sounds in comparison to what has come since. In short I love this album because without it some of the best albums ever made wouldn't have been made but if they hadn't followed it up with Alligator I guess it would be sat unloved and brooding in the dark recesses of my ipod which I suspect it would perversely enjoy.
Good album. Some really beautiful pieces here and there, definitely better than their debut album. Two songs that stand out for me were "Lucky you" and "90 mile water wall".
Slipping Husband was awesome. This album is overall better than any other album of theirs I have listened to. Everyone is crazy about Boxer, and Boxer turned me away from these guys, and this album pulls me in... I guess it goes to show you it isn't an artists supposed magnum opus that one should listen to in order to know that band.
As much as I love The National (they have a strong claim as my favorite band,) this is probably their weakest album, in my opinion. It's still quite good, and the band is still fleshing themselves out, but the outcome is less than their capabilities.
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