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JOSweetHeart
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- #11
- Posted: 11/02/2025 22:17
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My guess is that while plenty of movies may be good, some people may not care for the majority of the music that is in those films.
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Bone Swah
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Location: Broomfield, Colorado 
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- #13
- Posted: 11/03/2025 01:32
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| Andras wrote: | | Many albums are ranked unfairly low on this site, if we're talking soundtracks, why is Streets of Fire so low ?, if we're talking albums, why the hell is American Idiot so unfairly high ? 150 ?! kek, if you go on either aoty.org or RYM and compare the rankings for Green Day discography vs MCR, the difference is abysmal, a single MCR album is worth 2-3 green day ones, 3 cheers is ranked 280 on aoty, and in the top 500 on rym (here isn't even top 1k) with no green day album cracking the top 3000 in either one. Some albums I find particularly unfairly low, are Discovering the Waterfront, if it wasn't for my chart it wouldn't even be in the top 10k !, same with Collide with the Sky, among others. On the positive side, tpab is ""only"" 19th, instead of 1st like aoty/rym, and Dog Man Star is 462, also, both Absolution/Hot Fuss are also ranked (a bit too) highly, so I'd say there are positive and negatives points to BEA chart. |
The point of this site is that everyone who comes here is going to disagree with the makeup of the overall chart. But you get to have your say. You get to make your own charts, in the way YOU think they should be. And your chart DOES count in the makeup of the overall chart.
There are two ways to look at it: either everyone is wrong, and thus, the overall chart is wrong...OR. Everyone has their own opinion, as I have mine. No overall chart anywhere is going to reflect what you want it to be. But at least here, you can do it how YOU want it to be. And, again...that DOES count for something here.
You may not like Green Day as much as you like My Chemical Romance, which is fine. You are not wrong. But really, neither is anyone else. That's part of the beauty of this.
One thing...we don't all get your abbreviations. I didn't know what MCR you were referring to until that crazy guy who responded to you pointed it out ( 😠), and I have no clue what tpab is supposed to be. Some of us have hundreds, thousands of album titles and band names stuffed in our feeble brains. It does help some of us old farts if you could spell them out at least once so we know what you're referring to!
As for me...I don't really give a crap what RYM or Album Of The Year or Rolling Stone thinks. I know each one is as imperfect as the other, so I'll stick with the imperfect one we have here. It works for me. I know I'm not everyone, but it keeps me sane. And I know that here, my opinion DOES count.
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albummaster
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- #14
- Posted: 11/03/2025 09:34
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| MadhattanJack wrote: | | Third, BEA was launched in the Pre-Smartphone, Pre-Internet-Saturation Era, which is to say that for its first 8 years or so the user base was probably overwhelmingly white, male, American, and over 25. That alone shouldn't account for a 4,000-point difference in Rank Scores, but MCR was (for good or ill) often labeled an "emo" band and Green Day wasn't, which could have made MCR seem "uncool" to older men, who then got on the internet, got bored one day, and decided to make a BEA chart. |
Most of this is true (and agree with a lot of it), but the head-start is somewhat mitigated by the linear points depreciation on overall charts. The rankings on BEA are primarily based on the last ten years activity. Those charts that seeded the site no longer contribute to the rankings because they are over ten years old (the site is now 20).
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Johnnyo
Gender: Male
Age: 67
Location: London Town 
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- Posted: 11/03/2025 09:55
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| albummaster wrote: | | Most of this is true (and agree with a lot of it), but the head-start is somewhat mitigated by the linear points depreciation on overall charts. The rankings on BEA are primarily based on the last ten years activity. Those charts that seeded the site no longer contribute to the rankings because they are over ten years old (and haven't contributed to the rankings for about a decade because the site is now 20). |
I think that removing chart that are more than 10 years old keeps the site more relevant and is a very good idea.
Just from my perspective, I have been on RYM and other similar sites but BEA fits me better than the others do. That's obviously personal to me but I've found a lot more interaction here than on other sites. BEA is not perfect, but it's the best out there IMO and the site are always keen to hear what can improve the site for users.
I've also noticed greater interaction over the last few weeks which is fantastic. More threads being created and more discussion going on after a rather flat summer. Let's keep this going
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Johnnyo
Gender: Male
Age: 67
Location: London Town
- #16
- Posted: 11/03/2025 10:04
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| Andras wrote: | | Many albums are ranked unfairly low on this site, if we're talking soundtracks, why is Streets of Fire so low ?, if we're talking albums, why the hell is American Idiot so unfairly high ? 150 ?! kek, if you go on either aoty.org or RYM and compare the rankings for Green Day discography vs MCR, the difference is abysmal, a single MCR album is worth 2-3 green day ones, 3 cheers is ranked 280 on aoty, and in the top 500 on rym (here isn't even top 1k) with no green day album cracking the top 3000 in either one. Some albums I find particularly unfairly low, are Discovering the Waterfront, if it wasn't for my chart it wouldn't even be in the top 10k !, same with Collide with the Sky, among others. On the positive side, tpab is ""only"" 19th, instead of 1st like aoty/rym, and Dog Man Star is 462, also, both Absolution/Hot Fuss are also ranked (a bit too) highly, so I'd say there are positive and negatives points to BEA chart. |
Hi Andras. Some interesting points here and just wanted to pick up on the first one, Many albums are ranked unfairly low on this site
I don't really get the point that you are making. WE, the users, determine where an album appears on the list of greatest albums. It's our charts that make the decision as to where an album features in the charts. I agree that some albums are ranked too high (or low) for my tastes but that's democracy. Everyone get the opportunity to contribute their charts (their vote to put it crudely) and then the majority decision rules.
Personally, I think that there is not enough female representation at the higher end of the overall chart. That, I think, will change over the coming years as many of the best artists around right now are female.
If we want to influence where an album features, post charts. it will make a difference.
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