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mickilennial
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- #41
- Posted: 03/08/2020 19:03
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| Quote: | | And if you try to come back with "I know Kylie Minogue's music quite well", how do you not hear E-Mo-Tion is extremely derivative then. |
Because its an incorrect assessment. Minogue was far more in love with the disco-ladden late 70s and international dance trends than she was with what Carly was drawing from on Emotion. As someone who is old enough to remember Kylie's international breakthrough and never loathed pop music and intimately interacted with it, I cannot go into detail enough to tell you this is revisionist and full of pretense.
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baystateoftheart
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- Posted: 03/09/2020 02:06
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| antaiospiano wrote: | Why do you look down on things? On Tug of War she's cringy, but she's real. Her style there is Taylor Swift's first album and '00s adult contemporary, but it just fits her. Jepsen ain't a genius, Tug of War is a 7/10 in my book too, but it's just more genuine.
E-Mo-Tion is overproduced and goes all the way for late '70s/early '80s nostalgia, even Chromeo is less obvious. And her songwriting and vocals sound like every Kylie Minogue song from the '00s, which y'all have never listened to probably. Look, here's the problem with hypes like E-Mo-Tion: they strike me as highly random because I actually listen quite a lot of music from female pop stars, 'cause I don't look down on that. And then ten years later someone comes with exactly the same style and suddenly it's nostalgic and "pop-escapism". Somehow you can only be cringy if it's nostalgia or ironic in some way. Well, I like shit that's just cringy as long as it's real.
And if you try to come back with "I know Kylie Minogue's music quite well", how do you not hear E-Mo-Tion is extremely derivative then. |
It was shock at an opinion I'd never heard before and didn't understand. I'm not looking down on Tug Of War - I actually haven't heard it in full yet, just a couple songs. I love listening to music by female pop stars; pop is an awesome and overhated genre.
I find it a bit rich that I'm looking down on things, while you're the one who's criticizing her album, deprecating her intelligence, calling her music cringey, and making dismissive comments about other users' tastes.
There's nothing inherently bad about musical nostalgia, however obvious it may be. Also, being nostalgic and having influences can't be neatly separated.
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