Cruel Optimism
by Lawrence English
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Lawrence English bestography
Cruel Optimism is ranked 3rd best out of 23 albums by Lawrence English on BestEverAlbums.com.
The best album by Lawrence English is Wilderness Of Mirrors which is ranked number 17397 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 64.
(N.B. Bestographies include all albums by an artist (and their variations), but do not include albums ranked outside the top 100,000).
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Cruel Optimism track list
The tracks on this album have an average rating of 75 out of 100 (all tracks have been rated).
Cruel Optimism rankings
Calculated from aggregate positions across 60,000 charts (2 million album rankings). Click to see how the rankings are calculated (Last updated: 3 hours ago)
| Year | Source | Chart | Rank | Rank Score |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2025 | Top 100 Music Albums of 2017 | 6/100 | 5 | |
| 2025 | Top 80 Music Albums of 2017 | 8/80 | 5 | |
| 2023 | Top 100 Music Albums of the 2010s | 95/100 | 1 | |
| 2017 | Tiny Mix Tapes | 2017: Favorite 50 Music Releases | 30/50 | 2 |
| 2017 | The Silent Ballet | Top 100 Albums Of 2017 | 26/100 | 4 |
| 2017 | Boomkat | Boomkat Top Releases 2017 | 39/95 | 3 |
| Total Charts: The total number of charts that this album has appeared in. | 6 | |||
| Total Rank Score: The total rank score. | 19 | |||
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Cruel Optimism ratings
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| Rating | Date updated | Member | Album ratings | Avg. album rating |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| ! | 01/13/2024 12:11 | LosWochos | 47,545 | 75/100 |
| ! | 01/02/2018 03:23 | 9,584 | 72/100 | |
| ! | 10/26/2017 03:18 | 782 | 52/100 |
Rating metrics:
Outliers can be removed when calculating a mean average to dampen the effects of ratings outside the normal distribution. This figure is provided as the trimmed mean. A high standard deviation can be legitimate, but can sometimes indicate 'gaming' is occurring. Consider a simplified example* of an item receiving ratings of 100, 50, & 0. The mean average rating would be 50. However, ratings of 55, 50 & 45 could also result in the same average. The second average might be more trusted because there is more consensus around a particular rating (a lower deviation).
(*In practice, some albums can have several thousand ratings)
This album has a Bayesian average rating of 72.5/100, a mean average of 72.7/100, and a trimmed mean (excluding outliers) of 72.7/100. The standard deviation for this album is 14.5.
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